stock power on a 70 mustang 250ci

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what were some of the power specs on the stock 250ci in a 70' mustang?

just curious. we found one for 3500 and my friend wants to buy it.
 
If looking for original data, you're probably going to get quoted FWHP figures, not the later "net" style which are much more honest.

Ignoring the motor, what is the rest of the car like?
 
here you go

The 250 in³ (4.1 L) straight six was an engine option offered in 1969 in the Mustang and 1970 in medium sized Ford cars. Output was 155 hp (115 kW) in the Mustang, and became the base engine in 1971. Power was down to 98 hp (73 kW) for 1972 and just 88 hp (65 kW) the next year. The last year of production for the 250 was 1984.

Bill
 
addo":1ynvk4dd said:
If looking for original data, you're probably going to get quoted FWHP figures, not the later "net" style which are much more honest.

Ignoring the motor, what is the rest of the car like?

1970 was the first year of Govt mandating, posting the Net ratings, instead of gross Hp ratings.
 
Forget them all! The 250 engine had the same out put all along, with a slight drop in the 1971 to 1974 versions, and then a regain from 1976 to the last one in the last X-shell Granadas before the 3.3 only Fox 'nada arrived in 1981.


The SAE gross verses net debacle is a suppreme example of how marketing and insurance people make you tell the truth they want to hear without actually lying about it!

1972 was the year mandatory net figues were required in the US. In Australia, it was rolled out from 1976 to 1979, and we had the same issues to content with. (In the USA, it was a result of the Speed Kills campaign of 1971, and the escalating insurance costs since the power race which started in 1958, got 'pliped up' in 1964 with the GTO 389 which had more than less than 10 pounds per hp, and it expolded in 1970 after the outfall from the SOHC, Hemi, and ShotGun 429's gave the muscle cars a tainted killer image).


Both the USA and Aussie 250 were rated at 155 gross from 1969 to 1971, although some smogged versions to cali were less than that. In 1972, every 250 got a 10% drop in power from the US 72 emmission regs, plus an SAE net rating was often 16 to 28%, even 50% less than an SAE gross because the power peak rpm and power was influenced by the ancilaries, exhast and heat correction.

The Aussie 250 went from 155 hp SAE gross in the 1-bbl and 170 SAE gross in the 2-bbl to a measely 123 hp DIN net in 1976. The smog 1976 Aussie 250 engine was much stronger than any earlier 250 1-bbl engine, but it was rated down 26% because the 250 never had 155 hp gross anyway. The 170 hp 250 2v had about 149 hp net, a drop of 14%.



We saw that with the 125 hp 1966 200 Falcon engine which became the much stronger (!) 83 hp 3.3 in 1981. Both cars yielded about 67 hp at the back wheels, and the emission controls loss of 10 to 20% in the power was made up by smarter cam profiles, better rocker arm ratios, much improved intake manifold casting, huge valves and more advanced carburation.


A backgound issue. Fords engines were often not even rated correctly at SAE gross. Sometimes, Ford, GM, or Mopar would take the maximum power rating further down the curve to avoid that dreaded 10 pound per hp insurance premium. So a 380 hp at 5800 rpm Boss 351 was rated at 330 hp at 5400 rpm as it weighed in at 3500 to 3800 pounds, and would get slugged come rego and insurance time.

So on the big engines like the Boss 351, the actual rating was about 330 hp SAE net at 5800rpm, but SAE gross, it was only 330 hp at 5400 rpm. SAE gross at 5800 rpm, it would be 380 hp. See how sneaky things get when you customer pays insurance?
 
yeah power ratings are all confusing, i just figure how much i love riding my 200ci falcon. In city it moves good, and highway its just slightly slower then my sunbird, but throttle response is better so go figure *shrug*.

That mustang (depending on make) must be in great shape, because 70 stangs (unless fastbacks or mach 1s) usually don't sell for that much, especially six cylinders.

I'd imagine though that a stock 250 would move it just fine, doubt it would ever be a speed demon seeing as how mavericks with 250's aren't super fast and that stang probably has a good 3 or 400 lbs on a maverick.

Does anybody know what sort of rear end those stangs would have (70s six cylinder) i just ask because well, depending on condition of car and what stuff they had available a v8 swap (OMG HE SAID IT!!!) wouldn't be too unfeasable.
 
its probably not going to be the rocket you think it is. but i wouldnt let whats under the hood scare me away from a car. engins can come and go but nice bodies are hard to come by

my 4dr 250 comet probably comes close to the weight of a '69 and it doesnt want to get anywhere in a hurry.
 
I have a 1969 with the 250 in it. It is a fastback and it gets along ok. It has a 279 rear end so it has good performance between 60 and 80, but a bit slow off the line.

It runs stronger when I added the HEI distributor and the dual outlet headers and dual exhaust system. I am planning a rebuild with a batch of Mike's goodies. It is a fun car, gets fairly good mileage and $3700 for a good shape 1969 Fastback would be a deal to jump on.

Jim in MO
 
your selling your fastback?
now i'm interested in THAT!

i really dont think this car is worth 3500, because its a six, automatic, and its a Grande body. the rear axle looks like a 9 inch from some other car and the bodywork sucks. it is "ready for paint" but... well. its not very smooth. and has bondo. the interior is crap and there is no exhaust. it supposedly runs but with no battery in it (WHY?!?) who knows.

idk. i think i can find a better deal is all. but my friend is dead set on getting it so i was curious. its straight i guess. no really serious rust, but i wouldnt put any money in it without removing the body and blasting the frame and underbody.

oh and its five lug, drum brakes, so its not a grenada disc swap :(

if you want i may can get some pics of it.
 
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