Switching to a V6

[Anonymous]

Hey all,
I was wondering if it was possible to switch out a 200ci inline six for a v6, It would be bolted into a 64 falcon with a C4 tranny. Has anyone done this before? Was it cost effective? How was performance? Thanks Cody

 

[Asa]

well, we need to know which V6
Al was looking at going with a Duratec V6 for a while, but then he decided to sell his car

far as i know, no one has actually done it though

 

[pedal2themetal45]

Actualy I think you would be better off going to maybe a 250 I-6. easyer swap.. A 170 is a 2.8L, 200 is 3.3L ( I beleve) so a 250 should be about a 3.8L or so I would think. Other than coolness I think I would stick with a inline motor..
Just my.o2
tim

 

[Anonymous]

I have a 170 inline six in the car right now, and a 200 sitting on a stand awaiting a rebuild, but If the 200 can not be rebuilt I was considering the option of a V6, intake manifolds would be a lot easier to come by, dual exaust would be a snap, and I have seen a couple on ebay with low miles for a lot cheaper than it would be to rebuild the I6, Also I am wanting to do a turbo setup. Plus it is something nobody has. I have developed another question along the way too... If i were wanting to go the route of fuel injection would that require a complete fuel system over haul, ex new tank lines, ect?? Thanks for the advice CODY

 

[CoupeBoy]

I would think that a 3.8 or 4.2 newer bent6 would help move a little bit of the weight back off the front end and possibly help with weight distribution. You may have to make your own motor mounts, wiring harness, and custom oil pan, but it may be worth it.

For EFI you should not have to repace everything. I think most of the aftermarket kits for mustangs keep the tank but replace the sending unit and fuel lines (upgrade to larger diameter and add a return line). I wonder if a kit designed for a '64.5-65 mustang would work for you? You may also want to troll the http://www.3.8mustang.com/ forums.

lots of luck
-ron

 

[Anonymous]

To answer your question about converting to fuel injection, assuming you are talking about using a V-6, then yes, you would probably have to convert everything with regards to the fuel system. I say everything but you might be able to get by with using the stock tank. Just not sure if it will hold up to the pressurized system of modern fuel injection. Al would probably know the answer on the tank.

Oh, one question for you. If you are looking for more power than the I-6 and think a newer V-6 would be the way to go, think twice. Again, Al could probably give you a break down on conversion costs. I would think a mild Vee-eight would be MUCH cheaper than a total conversion. I know a few people who have took a basically stock early Mustang or Falcon and swapped motors for less than 1000.00. A conversion such as what you are thinking would easily be three times that amount - and then some.

But, it's your ride. Just enjoy it, whatever you decide!



-Chris

 

[66Sprint6]

I imagine that if you could squeeze a 351 in there without cutting, a dinky v6 could fit fine...but why? I know, I know, this is a six site, but still. If your gonna ditch the inline, at least put somethin worth your time in there. At least our sixes sound freakin awesome when you dual them out, V6's have some of the worst sounding exhaust notes. It would be easier to do a V8 swap, and if your gonna go so far as to swap a modern motor in, why not a 4.6 out of a GT, or better yet, a Cobra? Dont say gas mileage, cause the newer 8's get plenty. Ide say throw a worked 200 in there and screw the modern stuff, easier to swap, looks more at home and plenty of know-how on here. All in all, go with what you feel, and take plenty of pictures, but think about it first!
Matt

 

[Asa]

http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... ht=v6+swap

http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... ht=v6+swap

 

[Anonymous]

Ok guys
Thank you for all the information, after futher thoughts and youre advice i can see how it really isnt worth it. Ill keep ya updated, Cody

 

[63redtudor]

A while back (few years ago) someone did this conversion with a 3.8L. Basically had to do everything that you'd have to do to put a V8 in there & if I remember right, it didn't fit all that great (till some more mods were done). V8 parts were easier to find as well. As an asside, I've worked on a 3.8 & while it has a bit of power, it seemed to be a rather fradgile motor though. This was a grandma car & the motor seemed to be nothing but trouble.
Edwin

 

[66Sprint6]

Dont mean to discourage you man, but really, you ought to look into atickin with the inline and making IT a beast. It can be done, Im about to find out JUST how much of a beast too
Matt

 

[Asa]

it seemed to be a rather fradgile motor though. This was a grandma car & the motor seemed to be nothing but trouble.
Edwin

as a stock engine, i think most would agree with you, but i remember one post where a member went through the flaws of the stockers, but pointed out the plusses of the various engines, and speculated that a built one with parts ranging from various years and models would be a real strong engine
i wanna say that it was X, but i didn't find any posts that would match

 

[Anonymous]

I too had thought about this swap--had a 4x4 93Ranger pick-up for 10 years with a 4liter / auto and it was 1 tough motor. Spent most of it's life over loaded and over worked, would smoke the tires(locking 337 gears) through 1st and a little ways into 2nd. and that Ranger being a 4x4XLT supercab was not a lightweight. Finally deciced I was just too lazy to go that route. Motor was trouble free(mostly) for 235K. sold the truck to pay for the Falcon & weather stripping for it.--go figure. Personally i think buckled to a 5 speed it would be a heck of a set-up. Basically the same size as a 250 (4liter vs 4.1)but a much faster reving engine with a short crankshaft and lots of aluminum. If I could afford someone else to do the work I'd still do it. Remember though just replacing a thermostat is 1-2 hour job on those things.--5 minuts on the thermostat and 1&1/2 hours getting stuff out of the way to put a wrench on the housing bolts.

 

[rbohm]

Actualy I think you would be better off going to maybe a 250 I-6. easyer swap.. A 170 is a 2.8L, 200 is 3.3L ( I beleve) so a 250 should be about a 3.8L or so I would think. Other than coolness I think I would stick with a inline motor..
Just my.o2
tim

8) 170ci=2.8L
200ci=3.3L
250ci=4.1L

the 3.8L V6(238ci) is not a bad motor to consider. the heads are similar in design the the 351c 2V heads(smaller valves though, and inline valves) and flow fairly well. if you stay with the rear drive versions of the engine, you wont have the head gasket problems the front drivers have. the nice thing is that the rear drive 3.8 uses the same bellhousing pattern as the 289/302 fords so transmision selection is fairly vast in scope. the 3.8 can make some pretty good power when properly built, and some people have put their V6 powered mustangs in the low 12's/high 11's, though they used blowers to do so.

 

[Anonymous]

OK wow
Seems like there is a lot of + and - but well see how the 200I6 looks.

 

[Asa]

just remember, we don't go with the I6 for it's power, if we wanted all out power we'd go with a V8
we go with the I6 because it's different, if you want to go with a bent six for the same reason then let no one stop you, they're only being silly if they tell you that it's pointless