Turbo MOD!

[rmousir]

[b ] I used to drive a 91 Dodge Daytona Shelby. (I know its not a FORD!) Anyway this car had a type two turbo on a 2.2 four banger engine. This put out a good boost. How hard would it be to take a turbo from one of these very avilable Dodge/Chrysler cars and mod it for the 200I6? Dodge/Chrysler made a tone of cars with these turbos on them. You can find these turbos in the Labaron, Daytona, Laser, Talon, Charger, and even the Shawdow. I am sure that the cost to pick one up at the wreckers would not be a lot. The rebuild kits may be a little pricey but I am sure that if we can find a way to put one on that it would be worth it. Does anyone have any experiance with this? What sort of factors would one have to consider? I think it could be done if you could weld one into place on an long header and ran a good tube to the carb and modded it. I would love to hear some more insite on this. I may even get brave enough to try it on my engine when I rebuild it. Help me out with this. [/img][/b]

 

[Anonymous]

I think these small MOPAR turbos (actually Mitsu, IIRC) are a fine low-boost candidate for a 200 CID I-6. They only make about 175 hp on a MOPAR, so won't make big power on one of our engines. That having been said, the result would be an engine that revs like a 200 ('cuz it is one... ) and has the torque of a well-built 250.

Good combo in my book...!

 

[XFlow_Fairlane]

the mopar turbos have a very small exhaust side so they would spool up real fast but your not going to get any revs out of the motor.

nick

 

[rmousir]

Ok. I am getting the idea that the mopar turbo would not be a good way to go. I have to say I am a little discouraged right now. I have this 66 mustang that I am not sure that I will ever get back together let a lone make it a rice eater. My problem, much like everyone else, is I have big ideas but limited knowledge and MONEY. Is there a blue print that I can follow for engine build ups? I am getting the falcon book this week so that will help. I have also looked at the Clifford web site in detail but I have to believe that they have the demostic answer. I have looked at the Auzzie Head but I am not sure that will be affordable even if I could find one. What other engine build up plans are out there. Please keep in mind that I am not a novice but I am no where close to an expert when it comes to pumping up an engine. I am more of a I can fix it if I read my book type. I would like to be able to get up and go when I want. This might sound dumb but I don't need v8 get up and go (I would have got a v8 then) but I don't want to get whiped by every rice rocket that is not modified. Thanks in advanced for any input, suggestions, and ideas.

 

[MustangSix]

Have you tried lookin the the tech section? Just click on the logo above.

 

[Anonymous]

rmousir, there is no "bolt-on-kit" to add a turbo to a 200. To add a turbo to a 200 you will have to do some planning, design, and fabrication work yourself. Only you can be the judge of whether that's more than you can realistically accomplish.

As far as 62fairlane170's objection is concerned, consider this: a 2.2L Mopar pumps about 230 cfm at 6000 rpm's, while a 200 CID Ford pumps about the same air at 4000 rpm's. That means that the typical Mopar turbo will work just fine on your engine up to about 4000 rpm's, at which point it'll begin to run out of air. Now, as 62fairlane170 said, the bigger Ford engine will bring this little turbo onto boost quicker than on a Mopar, so as long as you keep the rev's to a modest level (how much time do you spend above 4000 rpm's?), it'll do just fine.

 

[Anonymous]

54 ford . got a question for ye !
i,m going for a turbo setup , whas planning to do it with a dubble dellorto setup and draw trough ! now i,m planning to do the setup with lpg !!
question is : is it possible to do a lpg setup with a tbi injector system to inject the lpg ! ore wil the injecter frozen up ? there a gdi injector lpg systems , so why not using a tbi system? ore am i talking shit ?
i,m always full of new idees , but got from al the things not the right know how !

 

[Anonymous]

54 ford . got a question for ye !
i,m going for a turbo setup , whas planning to do it with a dubble dellorto setup and draw trough ! now i,m planning to do the setup with lpg !!
question is : is it possible to do a lpg setup with a tbi injector system to inject the lpg ! ore wil the injecter frozen up ? there a gdi injector lpg systems , so why not using a tbi system? ore am i talking shit ?
i,m always full of new idees , but got from al the things not the right know how !

Actually, the idea of trying conventional EFI injectors (both TBI and TPI) has been tried, but with disappointing results. It seems that those who try it report that the injectors freeze solid. However, that should not discourage you from trying it. Please do so if you have the equipment and let us know how it works, because I have no experience with it myself. For my Mustang, I purchased a used vapour LPG system from a 5.7-liter Chevy truck engine, and plan to install it in a draw-though configuration.

 

[Anonymous]

hmm, interesting you should mention they freeze up, the Liquiphase system doesn't encounter that problem though, it seems. It uses the stock Bosch fuel injectors and its own computer - although it appears they ramped up the injector firing voltage...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~disco/LPG1.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~disco/LPG2.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~disco/LPG3.jpg

 

[Anonymous]

got any clear pic of it ????, btw verry interesting subject , lpg injector, got a www adres for me for the lpg injectors ?

 

[Anonymous]

Hey, thanks for sharing that article with us, Disco!

As I mentioned above, I don't have any personal experience with this. I have just read about the problems if using OEM petrol injectors with liquid propane. The article you share is good news, though, and encourages me to look further into this - maybe the secret is higher voltage. In any event, recapturing the lost heat of latency is a big goal of mine.

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry, no clearer pics from me, unfortunately. I scanned these from A7M a while ago, so we know about the same as each other on the topic. TeddyXY71 may know more, since he got ahold of what appears to be the remnants of Liquiphase. IIRC he commented that they're looking at ways to break into the US market.

Personally, I think the LPG bubble has burst here - The Government is going to apply fuel excise onto it within the next two years, thereby removing lots of incentive for people to convert to LPG. fuel companies are also going to water down the octane rating by adding more butane into the LPG mix, making it cheaper for them.

ah well, it was good while it lasted..