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Recommended MS for future upgrades?

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Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #1 by 95cranker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:01 am

So ive been putzing around the forums for a while now ad i'm having trouble choosing the right one I like the features of the MS3 but also the MS2 but don't think that i need them YET. What do you think I should choose? :help:

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Re: Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #2 by pmuller9 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:43 pm

The MS3 supports sequential fuel injection and sequential ‘coil on plug’ ignition.
The MS2 only supports batch fuel injection and batch (wasted spark) ignition.

If you want future upgrades without limits then get the MS3.

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Re: Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #3 by rocklord » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:23 am

The MS2 can be upgraded to the MS3, but it would be a little more expensive than purchasing the MS3 initially.
From diyautotune.com an assembled MS2 v3.57 costs $468, an assembled MS3X costs $692.
An upgrade from MS2 to MS3X would include the processor daughterboard ($230), the MS3X expansion card ($110), and a new case ($42).

So, if you purchase an MS2 first, then upgrade it to MS3X later, the total cost would be $850.
That would be $158 more than purchasing an MS3X. This doesn't take into account how much you could recoup by selling the MS2 processor daughterboard and case.

A plus for Megasquirt is that the v3.0 and v3.57 boards are used for MS1, MS2, and MS3 allowing for upgrades as needs change.

And who knows what upgrades they are working on that will be better than the MS3.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #4 by 95cranker » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:18 pm

Thank you all, i just couldn't decide. :nod:

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Re: Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #5 by xctasy » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:55 am

95cranker wrote:Thank you all, i just couldn't decide. :nod:




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IMHO, I'd Dumb it down a notch . MS has a bluetooth serial adapter option to allow wireless programming of the thing, so MS3 will do fine.

DIYAutotune has the services of some of the smartest guys around to help, so you don't have add all the other features. Sequential injection is really only sequential under 3000 rpm in a six, and EDIS or TFI can run with a 36-1 cut out ring.


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Re: Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #6 by 95cranker » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:56 pm

I'm going to head for the MS2 In the long run I know that I won't have the ability to use sequential injection, but it's cheaper and it will do fine. Hoping to do a mild cam upgrade and turbo but it's going to be a while, have to get my truck road legal first. :thanks:

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Re: Recommended MS for future upgrades?

Post #7 by ahawks9er » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:32 pm

Along the lines of Xtacy's reasoning, I'd been eyeballing the Microsquirt for it's small size and enclosure. ($350 + harness) It's based on MS2 architecture. Batch injection and EDIS are certainly sufficient for my own purposes, but your own goals may point you to the more feature-rich MS3. I will say that it's nice to get your rig running and tuned on MS BEFORE a bunch of mods so sooner can be better.

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