2nd.gunman
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how many turns lock to lock for a 16:1 box vs a 20:1 box?
did GS falcons come with 16:1 standard?
did GS falcons come with 16:1 standard?
16:1 Steering
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i have a few 16.1 boxes.to see if its a 16.1 just scrape the crap of the plate on the top of the box,it will either say 20.1 or 16.1 .also in xr to xy they will have either m or p after it for manual or power steer however because they had the ram type power steer they both can be used with or without steer (the xr to xy power steer box had a different pitman arm ,the size of the spline only so if using the power steer box you need the power steer pitman arm other than that its all the same).i suppose you have an xa-xc lol
2nd.gunman
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thanks guys was looking at a box on ebay. the guy said there was no numbers on the top plate and 5 1/2 turns lock to lock so i guess it's a 20:1
Confirming 4.0 turns.
The 16:1 ratio was a K code Mustang GT item also used in the first XR GT Falcon, and has always been 4 turns lock to lock, from 1965 to the last XD Falcon ESP in 1982.
There have been a few erranous Wheels statements of 22:1 ratio items which were used on the early XC's, which were reported to be 5.5 turns. The first XK's used something like this, and had near to 5.5 turns lock to lock.
The standard figures were 5.25 turns lock to lock for the 20:1 ratio used from XR in 1966 to XG in 1993, when power steering became standard on the LongReach ute.
Ford had a crap load of 16M items left over from the Ford Special Vehciles GT and Hardtop projects. On a car with ER 60 225 sections tyres, like a 351 V8 in an XB Falcon, the use of the 16M box makes the steering way too heavy unless you've got great bicepts. In the lighter XD European Sports Pack Alloy head of 1981, the 16:1 steering box with ER 60 225 tyres, it was still plenty heavy. Every Falcon since the XY got heavier in the steering as the upper arms and geometry was altered. The XC was much heavier on the road than the XB. The manual steering on the XE was slightly lighter on the road than the early Iron headed XD's, as it was over 100 pounds lighter over the front wheels when you factored in the calipers, lighter gearbox, 50 pound lighter head and downgraded specification for the prssings and bumpers.
According to Peter Robinson of Wheels 1981, the 16:1 steering box had a huge reduction of 'lock' on turn-in to any corner. This made if far nicer in the twisty bits. They tested a sliver XD Alloy Head ESP 4.1 4-speed with Globe Bathurst wheels (Steering box, heavy duty springs, 1972 Phase III spec alloy wheels where items which were part bin items sent out in Fords empty box policy).
One thing to remember, the traditional 20:1 vauge steering is due to the slop in the track rod rod bushes (See A7M's posts), and if its 16:1 or even the 11.5-13:1 Bishops Kirby power steering (1972 to 1996) ..... any X-series Falcon befroe 1996 was still prone to wander at speed.
The 16:1 ratio was a K code Mustang GT item also used in the first XR GT Falcon, and has always been 4 turns lock to lock, from 1965 to the last XD Falcon ESP in 1982.
There have been a few erranous Wheels statements of 22:1 ratio items which were used on the early XC's, which were reported to be 5.5 turns. The first XK's used something like this, and had near to 5.5 turns lock to lock.
The standard figures were 5.25 turns lock to lock for the 20:1 ratio used from XR in 1966 to XG in 1993, when power steering became standard on the LongReach ute.
Ford had a crap load of 16M items left over from the Ford Special Vehciles GT and Hardtop projects. On a car with ER 60 225 sections tyres, like a 351 V8 in an XB Falcon, the use of the 16M box makes the steering way too heavy unless you've got great bicepts. In the lighter XD European Sports Pack Alloy head of 1981, the 16:1 steering box with ER 60 225 tyres, it was still plenty heavy. Every Falcon since the XY got heavier in the steering as the upper arms and geometry was altered. The XC was much heavier on the road than the XB. The manual steering on the XE was slightly lighter on the road than the early Iron headed XD's, as it was over 100 pounds lighter over the front wheels when you factored in the calipers, lighter gearbox, 50 pound lighter head and downgraded specification for the prssings and bumpers.
According to Peter Robinson of Wheels 1981, the 16:1 steering box had a huge reduction of 'lock' on turn-in to any corner. This made if far nicer in the twisty bits. They tested a sliver XD Alloy Head ESP 4.1 4-speed with Globe Bathurst wheels (Steering box, heavy duty springs, 1972 Phase III spec alloy wheels where items which were part bin items sent out in Fords empty box policy).
One thing to remember, the traditional 20:1 vauge steering is due to the slop in the track rod rod bushes (See A7M's posts), and if its 16:1 or even the 11.5-13:1 Bishops Kirby power steering (1972 to 1996) ..... any X-series Falcon befroe 1996 was still prone to wander at speed.
