350 cfm help

[Anonymous]

Hi guys,

I was wondering if anyone has suggestions for the installation of the Holley 2300 on a stock 200 head. I know I'll have to get the correct adapter from Clifford, but right now, my main concern is with creating an accelerator linkage.

Can someone post pictures and/or explain how they did their own swap?

Thanks!
Rob

 

[67 Falcon]

Get the adapter from www.carparts.com a lot cheaper than crapford. Go to the junk yard and get the throttle cable, pedal from Maverick Granada or any Fox body car. Russell

 

[Anonymous]

Hi MustangRob,

You didn't say what year car you have. I assume you have the early 1960's type with the throttle arm that runs parallel with the intake manifold. Take a look at the sight below for an example of how you can use the stock arm with a 2300 (or 2100) series carb.

www.geocities.com/mustang_man_1966/index.html

As for the adapter, the Clifford unit will allow you to install the carb without the stock hot water spacer, and with the correct orientation. In this regard, elimination of the spacer is recommended as its only function is to super heating the intake charge. Clearly not a performance enhansement. If you go with the generic adapter suggested by Russell you will have to either 1) use the stock spacer (which has hood clearance issues in addition to the heat issue), or 2) modify the generic adapter to work without the stock spacer (have not seen this done successfully), or 3) let your carb set at about a 30 degree angle to the manifold (tacky).

As for the the inference that Clifford product is not of good quality, I own a bunch of it. The quality is very good, it is designed for the car, and I have no complaints. Yes, a purpose designed / machined part cost more than a casting.

Final thought re: carbs, a Motorcraft 2100 (1.08) as used on the small V8's of the era is another good choice for your car. Plenty of flow (280cfm) and smaller venturies, i.e., higher intake manifold velocity. Higher velocity is helpful in keeping your bottomend torque strong. The 2100 and the 2300 fit on the same adapter and have similar linkage.

Enjoy the trip - Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Steve,
You definitely raise some good points. I was looking around, and Clifford's adapter seems to be the way to go... especially with the port for the PCV, etc tapped into the adapter already. I knew I was going to have some hood clearance problems, so clearly their adapter is the answer. Plus their adapter looks halfway decent and I've had no problems with their headers on my car.

Here's a link to the adapter: http://cliffordperformanceshop.com/...0_ford_intake_2_3_4__bolt_centers_1747421.htm

Besides that, I don't use the car in cold weather nearly often enough to merit the need for a superheating device. The spacer on my car doesn't even use hot water anyway--it seems to function off hot air exiting the PCV. Not only that, but the colder the air going in, the better, so I really have no objections...

BTW, the car is a 1966 coupe with a 67 head on a 66 block. It's an automatic but doesn't have the correct accelerator linkage with the bell-crank mechanism. The linkage is simply a lever running parallel to the intake log with a little pole at the end that's connected to a ball receptor on the carb linkage itself. Simple, gets the job done, and I really have no need for the kickdown anyway since I choose all my shift points manually.

For the carb I'll be using a Holley 2300 that I got off Doug Leach (aka Mustang Geezer). Looks like a clean carb, so I hope everything goes ok with it!

Thanks!
Rob

 

[Anonymous]

HI Rob,

Your linkage sounds like the standard stock item. Mine is the same and I had no trouble hooking the 5200 to it with and extended, stock type, piece between the arm and the carb.

Your carb is probably the one Doug tried B4 the 500. You're in luck because it is probably tuned for the 200, although maybe a little rich for a more stock motor. I have always been a little afraid the try a syncroness 2V on a near stock engine. Was concerned about too much volume off the line, i.e., loss of torque. Would really like to hear from you when done. By the way, my trans is set up the same way. Sort of a clutchless stick. And I don't use the kick-down either.

Steve

 

[Anlushac11]

Get the adapter from www.carparts.com a lot cheaper than crapford. Go to the junk yard and get the throttle cable, pedal from Maverick Granada or any Fox body car. Russell

That was going to be my recommendation too. Factory parts means easy to replace as opposed to hand crafted parts.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi MustangRob,

Just looked at the web sight you tagged to your post. The adapter you show is for the Holley-Weber, not the 2300. I find Clifford's new web sight grouping a bit hard to use so this type of error is common. I find it easier to go to the actual catalog and view the specific page. Go to store, catalog, page 20. I think you need part #08-1641 to put the 2300 on the 1.50" intake manifold.

Anlushac11,

The carparts.com adapter is NOT a Ford part. It's a generic after market casting. You can get this same part from Stovebolt for $18. The Clifford is $68. This why so many people would like to use the generic. Go to the fordsix home page a take a look at the TECH section related to installing a 5200. It is well done and clearly shows the pros / cons of both adapters. Bottom line, you get what you pay for.

Arn't these cars fun. V8 guys just plug and play. Where's the challange in that.

Steve