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hey i just got a 1980 mustang with the 200 motor and manual trans, well i have been looking for basic stuff i can do all week like a new air cleaner, carbs, ignition, intake manifold (as i was reading i guess mines kinda part of the head), headers, and all that good easy cheaper stuff .. anyone have any sugjestions .. this weekend i have to change the exhaust manifold gasket and the valve cover gasket because of some out (valve cover) and this weird ping/nock (exhaust from what my mecanic told me) so is there anything i might nock out wile im in there
 
If I was doing it then I would take the opportunity to install a Pacemaker header and a set of roller tipped rocker arms. From Fordsixparts.com

Not much real cheap stuff, you already have an electronic ignition. The mods you will be lookin at are gonna be $100-300 a pop depending on what you're wanting.
 
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YEA!

Another person with a 1980 Inline 6 Mustang!

Except mine is a C4 auto.

Before my motor went out in October of last year I had a 2 1/4" dual tailpipe exhuat like a Mustang SVO has and it was a noticeable difference.

Unless you put a bigger carb or a Aussie or Argie head on I dont think you will see much improvement by installing a different aircleaner.

Look around and find info on a Holley 5200 or Carter YF 1bbl carb upgrade.

A header is a must as the stock exhaust manifold flows like a pig.
 
Hey, I've got an 80 Stang, with a C4 too! 8)

The Duraspark II ignition is great but it can still be upgraded. :D I'm running a Blaster 2F coil, a MSD 6A box, MSD Duraspark II adjustable timing module, a now hard to find Ford Racing Duraspark wiring harness (bigger wires, better spark) and it's great!

Eliminate the belt driven accessories, these engines run so much better when they only have to drag the alternator along. Who needs power steering? Be careful with the A/C (if so equipped)! If you don't know what you're doing have a properly equipped shop take it out.

Exhaust is the first thing anyone should do when modding a six, plus it makes sound like a real beast!
 
headers sound like a good idea, i kinda need a new air cleaner because the one in it looks like hell, do you guys know anyone who makes an exhaust system for an 80 stang, i was thinking about keeping the exhaust on it and just changing the muffler to like a flowmaster or something and then i have this thing i got a long time ago that yo put into your exhaust and it had a valve that will flip from normal to whatever you hook to it and i might put side pipes on it :D also im geting rims because i cant stand hubcaps
 
8) you can get the headers from fordsixparts.com as indicated, the rest you need a good pipe bender for.
 
hey you guys with fellow 1980 stangs, how did you end up geting rid of all the emitions crap on yours? i was trying to change my header gasket toda and there is alot of crap in there, like the weird thing the header leads into then out to the exhaust
 
Howdy Firefox:

If you haven't already increased the initial advance do so. It is cheap, free actually, and sooo rewarding.

That weird thing that is bolted to the exhaust manifold is the factory Catalytic converter. It is a very restricted system. One of the 1st upgrades you should consider is your exhaust system. Getting rid of the stock 80s style exhaust manifold is a 1st must. It does little good to get more in if you can't get it out. If you can't afford a header at least look for a mid 60's manifold. Plumb it into, at least, a 2" head pipe, turbo muffler and a 2" tailpipe. The cut-out is cool, but will likely be more of a noise maker than a power maker.

Your next upgrade should be changing your rear end ratio. Your stock ratio should be a 3.08:1 gear ratio. Take a look at your door tag. Under "AX" you will likey see a "Y". That equals a 3.08 ratio. A change to a rear end with a 3.27 or 3.42 will absolutely thrill your WOW bones. I'm guessing that your manual tranny is an OD. If it is either of these ratios will still be very highway frendly. And any Fox boddied rear end will be a direct bolt in. For a 3.27 rear end look for a donor with a tag letter of 5, for an open differential, or E for a Trac-Loc. For a 3.42, code F, 4, for open rears or D, or R, for a Trac-lok type rear.

Don't be afraid of the smaller 7.7 rear-end if it's got the right ratio. They are plenty strong enough for our engines and are lighter in weight than an 8.8, by about 60 lbs.

The next big thrill is in a head redo. Check out the sticky post at the top of this forum for details on this improvement.

Adios, David
 
oh i know about the cat ... thats not a problem, the thing im talking about looks to be part of the stock header, when i get a new rear (now that you gave me the idea) i would like to put 15 or 16 in wheels on it and get speedo gears, also ill prob have to get new axles so i can get 5 lugs
 
Howdy back Firetox:

If "that thing" bolts directly to the exhaust manifold exit, it is the Cat on these engines. FoMoCo put them there for a faster burn on start up. The Cat, on these engines is not down stream, in a more normal location like other cars.

To adjust your initial timing, you'll need a timing light, a golf tee and a distributor nut wrench. Start and warm your engine to operating temperture, Stop the engine, disconnect the vacuum line to the carb and plug it (I'll bet your were wondering what you needed a golf tee for). Find the distributor clamp nut, under the distributor body toward the firewall. Loosen it enough so that you can just barely turn the distributor body by placing your hand on the vacuum cannister. Do not over loosen. Now attach your timing light to the #1 plug wire and the battery making sure you clear the fan. Clean the timing tab on the front of the engine and highlight the timing mark on the damper with a piece of chalk. Now restart your engine and note the current timing. Now put your hand on the vacuum cannister and gently and slowly push it toward the block, noting the change in the timing mark as you go. Set the timing at about 13- 14 degrees before top dead center. Shut off the engine and tighten the hold down clamp bolt. Restart the engine and recheck the initial timing. Now reconnect the vacuum line to the carb, dissconnect and remove the timing light and take it for a drive, listening carefully for knock or ping, mostly like at lugging engine speeds. If you do get any, you can; stop lugging the engine, down shift, OR retard the timing a degree or two, use an engine fuel system cleaner such as Gumot or Techron, use a higher octane gas, use a colder thermostat, a colder heat range spark plug or any combination.

On the wheels, any 4 x 4.25 Fox bodied Mustang wheels, '79 and later will be a direct bolt-on. There are many choices in either 15" or 16". You should try to maintain the same overall diameter as your stock rims and tires. For performance go with the smallest, lightest tire and wheel that will meet the performance potential of your rig. Any more and you're probably throwing money away and losing performance.

There is no need to upgrade to a 5 bolt axle and wheel in your application. The 4 bolts are way stronger then anything you will be able to give them. I have yet to hear of anyone ever breaking a 4 lug wheel, or axle. Have you? And 5 bolts are heavier. Lighter is better given our relatively small engines.

Adios, David
 
Destroyed the spider gears and snapped the left side axel on a 4800rpm launch at National Trail Raceway. It was in the 3rd round of eliminations too, damn!!
 
8) Doh!

I havent snapped an axle but my friend did first time he took his new to him 67 Camaro with a 396. Being his friend I wasnt allowed to laugh.

On your '80 Stang you have a couple of options on front brakes. I grabbed a set of 11" front spindles, rotors and calipers of a 89LX 5.0L Stang and if you use the 83 Lincoln calipers and a 83Lincoln Town car rotors its a quick and easy 5 lug upgrade without spending $400 and up.

On rear you can use two drivers side Ranger axles and drums and swap the axles and drums to make a 5 lug rear.

Problem for me is I have a real nice set of 15x8 in rims Im not ready to part with yet.

I also picked up the 2.73:1 8.8" rear from the same 89 Stang and am going to put in 3.55:1 gears. Just have to find someone I trust to put them in.

Almost anything on your Mustang except for the K-member can be upgraded to drag race or road race parts. I have a tubular K-member and I have considered taking the factory K-member in and seeing if a shop can remove the I6 mount pads and mount them to the tubular K-member.

I have read up and hope to have money to buy materials to make a fiberglass front bumper. If you can find an original aluminum bumper that would be a easy factory swap.

Warning getting that exhaust manifold off with that converter on manifold is a pain in the butt. There is no way that pig is going back on my car. A header or old style log manifold is only way to go. I would rather put a inline converter on if I have to.

I think a lightweight Fox body with the I6 and good gears even with a Automatic could do some good in Autocross and mild drag racing with all that low end torque.
 
Hey I got a 79 with a 200 and a c4
Can't wait to rebuild her
Like to see there are others with fox body 200's
 
this dosent make any sence .. so the cinlinder is a cat ... and the cat right under my shifter ? dude im gona be pissed if i have 2 cats to deal with, i mean i know what a cat looks like and i have one, but the silinder is still buging me .. oh well who needs cats .. one or two for that mater .. oh and the reason im looking into 5 lug is because i cant find any cool wheels in 4 lug and the size i want, 14 6 in the front (easy to find) and 15 10 in the back (havent found any in 4 lug)
 
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IIRC its called a light off converter or pre cat. Mine has another one under the car. Just get rid of the one on the exhaust manifold and keep the one under the car and you should be ok.

My 1980 Stang has 14x7 centerline clones.

The 79 turbo currently has my 15x8 rims I bought 18 years ago(1985). They are centerline clones also. Even back then they cost me $175 each and I had to special order them.

You might look at Mustang Parts Specialties for Fox Body rims and you can get a good price on 5 lug kits if you want to go with the SN95 style brakes.

http://www.stangparts.com/
 
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