Dual plane

170-3tree

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I am trying to figure out a good way to make a dual plane out of my aluminium intake. I don't want to buy a second manifold to mess with and don't want to totally muck up my existing one, until I'm sure the results are worth it and have someone to do the welding process.
My original plan was to use a carb spacer with a plate welded onto it that would split the plenum into two sections, just like the exhaust. I took closer examination of the manifold and don't see any way to make the fitment as tight as I would like, also, the 2bbl adapter renders this impossible anyway. BUT I have a buddy that will make a second adapter that I can mess with.

I am wondering how effective it would be to not have TOTAL seal around the devider, It will be pretty tight in there, but I know that with the texture of the floor, impossible to get total seal right off. I know that on a bent 8 it tends to help to have a void in the very top of the carb spacer, I'm assuming this provides some sort of plenum equalization, much like an x-pipe in an exhaust. But what if this void was around the entire divider would it make it essentially useless?
Of course if it would still help to test this way, as just a prototype situation, It would later be implicated into the actual manifold and set permanent.

I like the benefits of the dual plane on a bigger engine, allowing more cam while still helping off-idle torque and not deteriorating top end very much,, or moving it down in the rpm band. Also smoothing out the idle a bit, and helping economy to some extent around town sounds nice.

Thanks for any input.
Gerald.
 
I believe you will find that most truly separate manifolds have some type of balance tube between them; therfore a complete seal/separation may not be necessary.
 
if i were you, i'd get a seperator plate made that was close, and get a silicon or rubber gasket like they use to protect the edges of sheetmetal to wrap the edges. should create a 'nearly' perfect seal, with just enough pass through to equilize without messing anything up.
 
Soldmy66":1h1luw4j said:
I believe you will find that most truly separate manifolds have some type of balance tube between them; therfore a complete seal/separation may not be necessary.

I've seen this too, usually at the edge, where you can port your vacuum to so it's effectivly drawing from both plenums, and pressure equilizes there.
 
That's exactly what I thought. Thank you for confirming. As far as the gasketing you are describing, I am hesitant to put anything that could possibly come loose into the manifold.

Although I read that wrong at first and thought you meant to gasket the piece into the manifold. Which I would try if I thought it could be done well enough.
 
search with my username (80broncoman) and serch for split the plenum.
You will find info on the 240-300 it all applies to the smaller six jusr the same.
 
Searched and will continue to read through them when I have the time. Very interesting. Did you get the deal done at all? If so, how'd it work for you?
 
Yes it worked. no I don't have dyno results though.
If you make the divider removeable you can make a few different dividers and play with different sixe balence openings.
I think it one was to use this with a direct mount 2bbl on a small six it would make it easy to split.
 
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