Engine Suggestions Wanted

R

RyanG001

New member
Hi Guys,
I have been avoiding my mustang entirely for the past couple of months because it looks like I am going to have to put an engine in. Turns out that I have a cracked block :(

Anyway, I wanted to consult with all of you to see if you have any suggestions on buying a rebuilt 200. Things I should look out for, things I should make sure I check on. My engine is a pretty basic 200ci in a 66 Mustang. Also, any suggestions on a retailer? I have considered going with a local shop, but it seems I might be able to get a better price on the internet.

Any thoughts or suggestions are very much appreciated!

Ryan
 
Look on the "for sale boards". At least one complete engine is in there, and another bare block and crank for a 66. If you are mechanically inclined you could take the new block and use the parts off your original motor. That would be the cheapest thing. But...you know the condition of the rest of your parts.

Good luck.
 
Be inherently suspicious of any "rebuilt" motor. It is not profitable for a business to do it properly and fully at a price most people will wear. There is a lot to be said for (rationally) taking on as much yourself as can be feasible. Be organised, determined and have plans B & C ready to roll.

Adam.
 
I actually have a "remanufactured" 200 cid in my 68. It was built by a company called Recon, sold by a local engine shop. They used a 78 block, bored .040 over with a 66 head. So far so good. I still need to use lead substitute for the soft valve seats on that 66 head. I think it was also rebuilt to stock specifications.
The reason I did not rebuild my old 68 block was because it was my primary car at the time & I needed her back on the road as soon as i could. I also paid more for that 6 than if it was a V8.
 
be carefull of remaned engines. they generally only replace broken parts...so you prob have a original oil pump in there unless the old one was bad. so remans don't even include new bearings if they aren't badly worn.

nick
 
The way to come out ahead is always do it your self if possable. Also the best way is to be informed. I usally try to purchase a repair manual for any vehicle I own. While not as good as a orginal books from ford the ones at autozone are much better than none at all. They are usally about
$12 or $13. Sometimes you will think apart should fall off then the book might show you a bolt that was hidden.
Jim
 
Thanks for the replies!

First of all, I don't think I could rebuild this engine since I have a cracked block.....but I am an amature, and I don't know if that is correct. Most everything on my current block is good.....just put on a remanufactured head, but I don't know if the short block is rebuildable.

I am surprised to hear that most remanufactured engines sound kind of suspicious. There is a local engine shop that does rebuilds in house. If I go talk to them what should I make shure they are doing in rebuilding an engine?

Everyone's help and thoughts are extremely helpful, thank you to everyone!

Respectfully,
Ryan
 
They (reco places) fall down in not torque-plate honing, not miking and honing PER PISTON PER BORE, not cleaning fully (or even partly sometimes), not getting the corrosion crud out of the water passages, not checking every clearance on assembly; trusting the parts in the box to be right, and not rebuilding the accessories.

Typical rebuild issues:
"My engine is rebuilt, but lacks power"
"My engine is rebuilt but always runs hot"
"I have low oil pressure on my rebuilt"

- Sound like some things you have heard?

Adam.
 
I think your budget will determine your decisions. If you are on a limited budget then you will want to find the best available short block and reuse everything that is good from your engine. I would want to at the least do a valve job on your head and of course new gaskets. If the skys the limit then you can go for the all out high po rebuild.

Dave
 
One thing you could do is to ask around or check the local classifieds & see if there's a V8 guy getting rid of a 200. Often the engine will be in decent shape & you may even be able to hear it run or drive it. By carefully looking around you can get a decent deal (some V8 guys will just give the motor to you). If you're carefull you may be able to just get a motor & drop it in & go. I did this with the motor (300) that I just installed into my truck & while I'm still fooling with the tuning, its running great. Not only that but I now have use of the truck , which I really needed as we're getting into winter. Just a thought. Take care,
Edwin
 
Another possibility is to look for a used vehicle which you can still hear run.
I found a little out of the way salavge operation and bought a 1982 Mustang with an I6 for $300.
Put battery in car and they started it up and it just literally purred.
They'll even take the carcass back when I get through taking off what I need/want. :-)
Looking to put this in a 64/65 falcon.(One or the other)
FWIW DaveP
 
http://www.diabloengine.com/engreb.htm
Our engine rebuilding service is second to none. Starting with choice cores and quality name brand parts like Crower, Melling , and Fel-Pro your Diablo Engine will give you the power and years of service you deserve.

Engine Rebuilding
Cores are cleaned, magnafluxed, and inspected for any and all defects
Only quality name brand parts are installed
Our engine are built with the knowledge and 30+ years of experience

How We Do It
Teardown and Inspection

All cores are completely torn down and inspected for any defects. The Block is then cleaned and Magnafluxed to find any defects that are not visible. The crank and rods are measured.

Block and Crank Machining

Each block is Bored and the cylinders are inspected. Cylinders are sized on our Sunnen CV616 power hone and then cleaned. After honing the blocks are prepped, painted, brass freeze plugs and cam bearings are installed. Crankshafts are machined to proper tolerances and micro-polished. Rods are resized and fitted to new oversized pistons.

Final Assembly

Only quality Name brand parts like Melling, Keith Black, Sealed Power, Federal-Mogul, Fel-Pro, Crower, Silvolite, and Cleveite are installed to complete the Final assembly of your engine.
Click to expand...

saw nothing about torque plates, ask them
i'd suggest going in, talking to them, and looking around, most of the time i decide where to go based on two things, their services/prices, and how i feel about the place
if you aren't confident enough in your mechanical abilities, take a friend who is with you
 
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the help. I asked a shop about the torque plates and they asked me if I could be more specific. Could someone tell me what a torque plate is and what should be done to it upon a rebuild? Again, thanks for everything.

Ryan
 
OK, but what is it? I have no idea what a torque plate is and I need to know to be able to ask about it. Anyone.....Everyone......what is a torque plate and what does it do?
 
Alright, I found what it is.....

Not all machine shops use torque plates when boring and honing blocks, but yours should. The torque plate is a steel plate bolted to the deck of the block during boring and honing to simulate cylinder head stressing said Naegele. We want the cylinder bores machined and honed as though heads were installed for optimum results. If we bore and hone a block without the torque plate, cylinder dimensions will change when we install the heads, which can adversely affect the piston-to-cylinder wall marriage.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

C
All Small Six Suggestions on internals
Replies
6
Views
432
pmuller9
P
phipplet
All Small Six 1962 Falcon Wagon C4 & 200
Replies
13
Views
779
bmbm40
B
P
All Small Six O2 location and headers
Replies
2
Views
334
DON
DON
Tmacdagreat
All Small Six What’s the easiest, budget friendly v8 swap upgrade for a 1967 Mustang inline 6
Replies
11
Views
1K
Tmacdagreat
Tmacdagreat
D
All Small Six “Bullet proofing” or recommended block modifications before swap
2
Replies
25
Views
2K
Frank
Frank
Back
Top