Installing AZCOUPE's Roller Rockers have questions....

[Anonymous]

I am posting this for help and future information for others....

we are installing a set of Mike's Full Roller Rockers and have a question maybe some of you can help out those who have installed these already...

What should we do about the hole in the head where the oil came from the oil galley into the shaft from the stock oil system....

According to the machinist we either have to plug that or we have a problem?
Has anyone installed these yet? What did you all do? And how do they run... he also asked me if this would work at all? which I found a little worried...


I would really love to figure this out tonight I hate to hold up the engine another week....


Thanks

 

[Anonymous]

OK, I have searched around and read through some old posts...
I can find some info on installing the Roller tipped rockers... but not the Full Rollers.

Mustang Geezer and some others have posts about the bolts and passages as concerned with the tipped setup.. but no information on the Full Rockers.

Am I the first one to install these?
I thought I remeber someone else doing this?

But I see posts from Addo and others about converting over to the oil through rods and so I am sure this has been done... the question now from me is what exactly needs to be done to the head besides using the rods and lifters? Do I tap and block that hole?

 

[MustangSix]

That hole will have to be tapped and blocked otherwise it will spew oil as soon as the pump starts turning.

I'm assuming you are using the correct lifters and pushrods with these? The six cylinder lifters have to be replaced with V8 syle lifters and the pushrod must have the oiling holes on each end so that oil can flow thru.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I got the right lifters... they are getting the rods... just need to measure for length... but they are oil through for sure...

He said something about getting Chevy rods...?
Not sure about that...

Has anyone run an oil through setup on one of our 200 engines?
Is there anything else other than plugging the galley hole we should consider?
And how did the oil pressure and engine perform with this setup?

Will me oil pressure gauge work once this conversion is made?


Thanks for the help I need the confidence boost....
Still a little freaked out about the amount of money invested and the possibility of messing something up... I am going to have to take a valium when I turn this over for the first time... :roll:

 

[MustangSix]

No worries. The Crossflow hybrid is set up the same way and it oils fine. good oil pressure too.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks a bunch....

really appreciate it...

J.

 

[AzCoupe]

Jimbo,

The correct pushrod lenght is 7 7/8". I'll see if I can get a hold of some tomorrow and overnight them to you. I'll give you a call in the afternoon to let you know.

 

[Anonymous]

hahaha jimbo , yea sometime,s i need a asperine too ,to cool down . lots of thinking and figgering out for the parts , and always the problem : do i,m this good ? ore wrong ?
fine to have this forum for that little stimulans, when you just need it !

btw end of the week my struttower kit is in , wil make some detail pic ,

so when you want to adjust ore want other parts for the setup , just let me now , when having problems with the rod end links , ore money is out 8) just let me now , i wil send the brackets for attacht the stainles tubes [ i own you 1 for willing to helping me out ! ], so when you got time and money , you only have to make the tube,s fitting !

after getting the pedal bearing set from mustang steve

i,m gone do also this week fitting the hydrolic clucht M/C and trowout clutch ,a bracket that wil be a bolt on wil attach to the pedal 4 hole,s orginal setup ,and then the M/C can be just bolt on ! the luck i got is that when attach the M/C pushrod to the pedal [orginal attach hole from the orginal setup], it is just the right lengte ! [ distance that the pushrod must do !
for the trowout bearing into the bellhouse i only must messering the distance for making the adapterbarcket , the distance between the box and bearing to clutchplate [ for making the right lengte adapter ] so when ready the bearing wil be about 8M/M from the plate and it can trowout about 20M/M i hope this is enough !!!!

 

[FAR OUT]

Be carefull of push rod length. Head/block milling and gasket thickness can change length. An adjustable push rod should be used to check length of every rocker through out one full cycle of cam lobe. If irc these rockers have a 1.65 ratio. Check the position of the roller tip vs valve stem tip as you cycle rocker. It is also important to make sure you have enough clearence between valve spring retainer and the body of the roller rocker. I would recommend tap and plug oil feed on the block ( this eliminates one more spot for a possible oil leak at head gasket).

GOOD LUCK
DALE

 

[Anonymous]

Hello all...

here is the lastest with the rocker arm install....

First.. we plugged the oil Galley at the head.
To do the block would mean tearing it apart again or risk shavings in there...
He wanted too much money to tear into it again... besides I think as long as the oil has flow into the lifters and through the rods into the desired places I think there will be minimal pressure on the plug....

as it is we have to remove the head to do this...

Second on the pushrods...
we found a set that was the right diameter and type, but a few thou short... the slack can be taken up on the rockers... but I think I will have AZCOUPE make me a set of longer ones for the final result... this will allow me to install the engine and get the exhaust and drivetrain run... then I can swap rods before I close up the top end..