noobie with 200 six (more info)

Tony Raine

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my mom just got a (*edit) 65 stang that has been mostly restored and was generally well-kept. she wants to keep it stock in appearance so she can show it. but, everything needs more power. i dont know much about this motor, i've heard it has 7 main bearings. what kind of engine hop-ups are there like valves, heads, stroker crank, oversize pistions, etc...? can i get much performance out of the stock carb? i'm new to straight sixes, trying to learn as much as i can. from what i've heard, and from driving this stang, i would love to find a similar motor and try to shove it in my bronco 2
 
Hi, and welcome to the site!

A later model head from a 250 ('78 and up I think -- see head swap sticky at top of page) will not only help tremendously (for reasons given in the sticky) but will also look stock, especially if you top it with a larger/later model 1 bbl carb.

You can find a DuraSpark I, which will also look more like stock than a DS II, or stick with the stock dizzy and install a pertronix unit (do a search for info./opinions on this). A cam wouldn't hurt either, but without headers the performance package won't be complete. Of course, you could probably bore it out 40 over as well. It all depends on how much you'll want to do.

--tom
 
Howdy Tony:

And Welcome to THE FORUM.

First I have some questions about your mother's "new" '66. Is it an auto trans? When you say, "Keep it stock" do you mean stock, like from the factory, or stock in appearance? Are you looking for external bolt-ons or major engine work? Is the engine in good shape now? Well tuned? What is your location?

Since it is your mothers, I am assuming that it is safe and reliable now, Is it a daily driver or ????

There is a wealth of information here on everthing from factory stock to whatever. It is a good idea to start with a plan or idea of what your goal is for a finished product. That should include intended use, a budget and other considerations related to variables unique to your situation.

The '66 can be woken up with a performance tune up including a carb rebuild and tune, along with an ignition kit. Add an additional 5 degrees of initial advance to the factory tuneup specification. Increase tire PSI to the max rated on the sidewall of the tires and an additional 10%. If the sidewall says 32 psi max, inflate all tires to 35.

FYI, the '66 engine has a carb that is married to the distributor because of the Load-a-matic vacuum advance signaled by the Spark Control Valve on the Autolite 1100 one barrel carb. If you were to change one to something else, the other would not function as designed. There are excellent "Stickies" at the top of this forum explaining each. Both can be accommodated in upgrading and maintaining stock appearance and, stock appearance can be maintained when moving to upgrading either system. But first you need a plan.

There is power in the head too, but requires some down time and a more major committment of down time and money. What's the plan?

I hope this helps to get you thinking. I hope you are not put off with the vagueries of suggestions, but know that the more specific you can be the more exacting our responses will be. So keep your thoughts coming.

Adios, David
 
crap, i didnt realize i had typed 66, sorry, its a 65. (late night post...)

its a 65, 3 speed. not original rims/hubcaps mounted, but she has them too. she is using it mainly as a "sunday driver" and local show car.

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she is thinking about an engine rebuild, but keeping the outward appearance of the car stock. i'm slowly sifting through the tech here, thanks for the help.
 
Howdy back Tony:

Wow!!!! What a beauty. Be nice to your Mom so, maybe you will get to borrow it some times.

Keep studying. There are lots of choices to keep it looking stock but acting surprizingly better.

Enjoy.

Adios, David
 
The engine in the pics appears to have 170c.i. covers on it. Although it wouldn't surprise me unduly to see orange covers on a 200 they are usually blue.
 
she decoded the VIN, and it says it at least came with a 200 from the factory. oh yeah, its a blast to drive. no power steering, non-power 4 wheel drums, and the non-synchro 2-1 tranny. it actually drives quite well, no squeeks or rattles. very smooth,i can tell it was very well taken care of.
 
My mustang also had orange valve cover and air cleaner assembly. It was a very early 65, spetember 6 production date, so i assumed that ford being ford used left over parts from the 170 engine production.

Anyways just glad to see that other people have the same peculiarities.! haha
 
Very nice...

BTW, you can show a mustang modified. In some ways, 6 cylinders that are modified pull more attention then most V-8 cars. Unless she is trying to show concours (which will severly limit even the most basic of mods), you can still show with mods. My car pulls lots of attention and shows. I'm not out to win awards, but I get a lot of notice when I pop the hood.

www.kastang.net

Slade
 
here we go, my mom sent me the VIN info

65A Hardtop Standard Interior
Y Silver Blue
D2 Interior Trim
102 Date Code 10 May
23 Distributor Philidelphia
3 axle 3.20:1
1 Trans 3 speed manual

5 last digit of model year
T assembly plant New Jersey
07 Body serial #
T engine code 200 6cy
 
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