replacement carb
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60s Refugee
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Think about this, Patrick, a brand new Weber 34ICH (34ICT) will cost less than Pony charges to rebuild one. Pony did mine, I sent in a core, and it was still over $200. Took about a month. The carb is fine now and I'm using it in the center of the new tripower. They reconfigured it and its better than it was when new, but it was still a tough choice. But if I ever do mine over, It will be with Webers.
Harry
Harry
Here's a question??? Why send in a carb to Pony carbs for a stock rebuild?? $200 and 2 months to rebuild a carb!!!! I know they are the experts and can tweak these Autolites for performance, but on a daily driver that's mostly stock isn't that overkill??? Aren't Autolites easy to rebuild and run good??
You can find a good carb shop or a home-guru that can do it for alot less and spend the leftover $$ on other goodies, like Pertronixs or other upgrades.
If you do go w/ Pony, I agree w/ Patrick66, pick up a core and have it rebuilt if you need to be able to still drive on a daily basis. Webers are great but they are not a one day swap out. There are linkage and other issues that will take time.
Sorry, don't mean to come off negative. It's more of a question than an opinion. I've never had an Autolite or know too much about Pony Carbs.
You can find a good carb shop or a home-guru that can do it for alot less and spend the leftover $$ on other goodies, like Pertronixs or other upgrades.
If you do go w/ Pony, I agree w/ Patrick66, pick up a core and have it rebuilt if you need to be able to still drive on a daily basis. Webers are great but they are not a one day swap out. There are linkage and other issues that will take time.
Sorry, don't mean to come off negative. It's more of a question than an opinion. I've never had an Autolite or know too much about Pony Carbs.
Patrick66
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60s refugee, i dont think he's doing a tri power, a single weber 34 at 150 cfm is pretty small for a 200. well, so is the autolite, but according to mike the pony 1100 performs pretty well.
$200 seems to be the going price for a rebuild. a while ago i called a local shop and they wanted $200 to rebuild a weber 34. 200 x 3 = too much, so i ended up rebuilding them myself. the webers are pretty simple and rebuilding was very easy.
williboy, the pony 1100 is different than a stock 1100, they use annular discharge venturis which are supposed to perform better and look stock.
$200 seems to be the going price for a rebuild. a while ago i called a local shop and they wanted $200 to rebuild a weber 34. 200 x 3 = too much, so i ended up rebuilding them myself. the webers are pretty simple and rebuilding was very easy.
williboy, the pony 1100 is different than a stock 1100, they use annular discharge venturis which are supposed to perform better and look stock.
60s Refugee
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I knew he wasn't doing a tripower, but I have read where these 34's can be rejetted. Anyhow, you are right, a rebuilt 1100 is simple and will solve the problem with the least effort.
az1966, just don't buy a 1940!
Harry
az1966, just don't buy a 1940!
Harry
james singleton
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60'sRefugee, I am curious about your advice to AZ1966: "JUST DON'T BUY A 1940!"
I have had the 1940 carb on my 200ci engine since 1980 without any problems other than the fact that just recently the SCV went bad, and I am in the process of trying to locate a new SCV. So I installed my back-up carb, a Autolite 1100 until I locate a new SCV. Anyway, I have had very good luck with the 1940 carb (28years) and know of other people that have had good success as well. Just curious if you personally had bad luck with this carb?? Take care! Jim
I have had the 1940 carb on my 200ci engine since 1980 without any problems other than the fact that just recently the SCV went bad, and I am in the process of trying to locate a new SCV. So I installed my back-up carb, a Autolite 1100 until I locate a new SCV. Anyway, I have had very good luck with the 1940 carb (28years) and know of other people that have had good success as well. Just curious if you personally had bad luck with this carb?? Take care! Jim
60s Refugee
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No, I own one, but it's on the shelf. Never actually used one. As 1Vs go it sure looks overbuilt to me. However, so much has been said negative about them, even in the Pony carb book, that I wondered why Ford thought they were OK as replacements. I guess if some of you have good luck with them then maybe those 'who saids' are a bit wrong. I do know that 1940s pretty much bolt right in without modification. I have read statements on many subjects in other threads that sound right, but after all arn't as big a deal as the 'they saids' thought they were. To mention these would include SCV port/DSII stuff and that 'no resistor' stuff. To be fair I must admit that my tripe has only been running three days now, and so far she runs great with a resistor and with a SCV/LoadoMatic vac source. But in fairness too all of you folks who believe these things, I might find out differently, and they are no doubt correct, were I trying to build a 14 second drag Mustang. I only want a 15 to 16 second machine 
. There is a tremendous pool of knowledge on this forum and to come out and say that anyone is actually wrong about something, without looking at the bigger picture, might be ill advised. I apologize to you 1940 users since I was only regurgitating what I had read, not what I had experiance with. When a post is wrong, and everyone knows it (like that Amsoil never change oil again thread), the moderators will shut it down. We all appreciate the moderators, whether we ever say it or not. 
Still, the 1940 I have looks good, ran when taken off, and I'd trade it to anyone who has a rebuildable 1100 to swap!
Harry
. There is a tremendous pool of knowledge on this forum and to come out and say that anyone is actually wrong about something, without looking at the bigger picture, might be ill advised. I apologize to you 1940 users since I was only regurgitating what I had read, not what I had experiance with. When a post is wrong, and everyone knows it (like that Amsoil never change oil again thread), the moderators will shut it down. We all appreciate the moderators, whether we ever say it or not. Still, the 1940 I have looks good, ran when taken off, and I'd trade it to anyone who has a rebuildable 1100 to swap!
Harry
simon
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since the holley-supplied 1940 came as replacement carbs since the early 1970's for a full decade or so, there's a darn huge variety to choose from.
Either you know exactly what you are looking for, or you'll might end up with a smog-era unit calibrated and intended for dog water and emissions. That's why folks throw up the yellow flag every once in a while when it comes to 1940s.
ponies:
Maybe I'm outta line here, but I thought the annular discharge booster only comes on Ponycarb's own reproduction 1100s. To change the venturi booster on a stock rebuild, they'd have to swap air horns for their new improved design, or they'd have to do serious machine work to the existing dogleg booster. If that was the case, 200 bucks would be one helluvah deal.
Either you know exactly what you are looking for, or you'll might end up with a smog-era unit calibrated and intended for dog water and emissions. That's why folks throw up the yellow flag every once in a while when it comes to 1940s.
ponies:
Maybe I'm outta line here, but I thought the annular discharge booster only comes on Ponycarb's own reproduction 1100s. To change the venturi booster on a stock rebuild, they'd have to swap air horns for their new improved design, or they'd have to do serious machine work to the existing dogleg booster. If that was the case, 200 bucks would be one helluvah deal.
60s Refugee
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Well, Pony advertises that they improve the performance of even the rebuilds, maybe not with that annular thing, but it is supposed to be an improvement overall. I know that the brand new ones have it and also cost $400. I may yet get a new one for my center carb, but I can get two new Webers for the same money. Time will tell.
Harry
Harry
I66coupe
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Pony doesn't simply rebuild the carb. To a certain extent, they re-engineer them. It may a cost a bit more but from my reading on the various websites over the past 7 years, it really is worth it. It just isn't that much more than a local mechanic rebuild. When you get it back, you also get instructions about how to set and tune it for your particular application. After the rebuild, they run the carb on an engine to check it but there is no way they can set it up properly for your car. Others here may be able to tell you what that entails.
From what I understand, that annular discharge carb is a COMPLETE redesign and they are all new carbs, not redone cores. Looks like the cat's meow but boy its pricey.
From what I understand, that annular discharge carb is a COMPLETE redesign and they are all new carbs, not redone cores. Looks like the cat's meow but boy its pricey.
