starting when hot

[Anonymous]

I have been having trouble starting my 200 when it is warm which is a problem when you live in Alabama. It cranks fine when it is cold. Was wondering if anyone had tried any of the high torque starters on their six, and are there problems with clearance and the headers? Currently have clifford dual outlet headers, aussie head with 500 holley, all on a bronco.

 

[Anonymous]

hey what part of alabama you in? yea im just moved from memphis to n.w. arkansas and in tn i had problems starting as well. also this fall im supposed to be in galveston texas so im sure i will really have fun then trying to get it started!

 

[CobraSix]

What is the problem...starter not working, or car not wanting to start?

Slade

 

[TxAgs66]

I've seen people post this problem before... but even on the hottest days in North Texas or in Galveston (Whoop TAMUG, That for you white66) I never had a problem. I think I may have beaten the problem from the start by just having a good battery and new cables from the battery to the starter.

The only time I have ever had problems starting hot was when my timing was way way way advanced. It would start fine cold, but it had to crank over a few times to start when it was warm. Make sure that your timing is good!

Jason

 

[Anonymous]

The truck starts fine when cold, but when hot the engine just does not turn over easy. I never had this problem before I changed out the head. I thought about the timing as well, may try to back it off and see what happens. I have an 800 CCA optima battery, and recently changed all the the wires from battery to starter. I am currently in B'ham, and if I am having trouble now, the truck will never start in Augutst.

 

[TxAgs66]

Back off your timing a bit. Does it take a long time to start with quite a few revs...or does it crank is spurts (1 rotation per spurt) almost like something is holding it back.

If is cranking a bunch...then you might look into the compression it could be low. If it is just hard to crank, check the timing and make sure that there isn't too much compression.

Jason

 

[61Futura]

I just had that problem with my 86 Bronco II. I assumed it was a shorted starter, so I replaced the starter. Now it turns over so fast that I think I could drive it even if the engine wouldn't start.

If your exhaust pipe is close to your starter, you may want to get a heat shield to put around your starter so it lasts longer.

 

[Anonymous]

I think I will try a new starter and see what happens. I have headers and they are certainly close to the starter. Maybe I can wrap the headers with something to keep them from generating as much heat. I tried backing off the timing and it did not seem to help.

 

[TxAgs66]

Don't wrap the headers....this will kill them. It will induce corrosion.

Wrap the starter instead.


Jason

 

[66200i6]

I wonder? Is the condition just after stopping at the store for that extra gallon of milk for the wife? You know, the car has been sitting for about 10 to 15 minutes. Could the carb be boiling over, are you just on the verge of flooding or just a very rich condition? Even here in Seattle, I have experienced this problem. The solution for me was to recognize the situation and before starting open the throttle plate to give it lots of air. Once I started practicing this it would fire off much sooner.

Good luck, Ric.

 

[Anonymous]

That is exactly what it is doing Ric. Only when it has been sitting about 15 minutes, and it feels like it is close to flooding. Only way to start is to hold the pedal down and crank it, but often battery runs out of juice before it cranks.

 

[Anonymous]

Same here-

New starter, new battery, new cables.

It will crank for minutes without running out of juice so that isn't the problem

It starts on the first crank when cold or after shutting off for less than a minute.

But if it sits hot for 10 minutes or more I have to floor it and crank it a lot to get it to start.

I was meaning to post this question for a while.

 

[66200i6]

All I can suggest is to find a way to insulate the carb from the heat of the engine during the summer months. The easiest solution to try firsts is to install an extension in your heater hose to bypass the carb heater during those summer months. Another is to locate a supplier of phenolic material and make an insulator. A thickness of 3/16 to 1/4 inch just under the carb should help quite a bit.

 

[Anonymous]

Well I think I diagnosed the problem. Took the starter off and noticed one of the back bolts holding the starter together was stripped. Replaced the bolt and now it starts almost as soon as you turn the key, even when it is hot after brief stops. Live and learn I guess.

 

[Anonymous]

i have a similar problem.. but with mine i get it to start fairly easliy when it is hot, but it wont stay lit! However as soon is i move and seemingly get air through the engine compartment it is fine. i just dont get it