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I will soon be getting a new head thanks to Jimbo and will be wanting to do a direct fit 2bbl swap. Is the Stovebolt 2bbl a good buy? I think that 65 bucks for a rebuilt is great but that is only me.... What carbs are those that they are selling exactly? What are your opinions on which one I should install. I am looking for more power than economy taking into account the mods that i have done to my engine so far which include: comp 260, durraspark II, MSD 6-A + Blaster coil, cliffy 6-1 header, 2.25 exhause with super turbo muffler...

Let me know what you guys think!

Thanks,
Paul
 
Hi, Paul,

The carb that Tom Langdon sells is a Holley-Weber progressive two barrel. They came on Pintos, Vegas, and other high-end Detroit offerrings. The carb is a better unit than many of the vehicles that it came on. He does a regular business with a Detroit area carb rebuilder, and sells these for other inline engines, as well.

I spoke with him last August about this carb on the small Ford six, and described the difference between the familiar domestic head and the 2V head. He thought that the progressive type carb would work much better in this application than a regular 2 barrel, like a Holley 350 or 500. He pointed out that the rate of fuel delivery with the H-W was less likely to cause the engine to bog under acceleration than with a regular two barrel as well as delivering better fuel economy.

Hope this helps, Kinky6.
 
Hi 65mustangman,

The Stovebolt $65 carb is probably the Holley-Weber 5200. I say probably because I am under the impression that he is now selling Motorcraft 2100's at this price.

The 5200 is a 2V progressive that flows 270cfm. It is easy to tune as parts are easy to get (jets, etc.). I favor progressives because they tend to lower the torque curve (stronger bottom end). I have a Stovebolt 5200 and I am very happy with it. However, I have never seen one set up as a direct mount. No reason why this can't be done. Just not aware of any having been mounted this way yet.

The 2100 is available in several flow rates. The 1.08 seems to be the most popular (280cfm). While not progressive the throats are small enough to keep low rpm intake velosity high enough to produce a good bottom end. This carb, and the Holley 2300 (350cfm), are the most common direct mount units. They have the same mounting pad, so they are interchangable. The 2100 is more difficult to tune to a specific application as jets are hard to get. No problem with the 2300, which is also available in a 500cfm version.

Since the cam you are using is advertised to 5000rpm, and assuming that your cam, head and header mods will raise your VE to 85%, your max flow requirement will be 280cfm. This is a little on the high side for either the 5200 or the 2100 / 1.08. If you want to stay progressive (I like progressive) you can go with the Weber DGV (32/36) series. They fit the same mount as the 5200 and flow 320cfm. The 2300 would also do the job for you, but there my be an off-the-line advantage to the Weber.

Hope this is helpful - Steve
 
Hi Again,

Suddenly occured to me that I forgot to adjust the cfm requirement I posted above (it was late). The 5000 rpm requirement of 280 cfm I quoted is at 100% VE. At 85%, which is the number I was trying to post, the cfm requirement is 250. So, in my opinion, the 5200 and/or the 2100 - 1.08 will work just fine on 66mustangman's application. However, just for fun, I thought I the following chart might be useful

CFM Req @ RPM 5000
100% VE 289
95% VE 275
90% VE 260
85% VE 246
80% VE 231
75% VE 217

Based on the HP output of a stock car (1972 benchmark of 91 net HP @ 4000) the factory VE is 75%.

Sorry for the error - Steve
 
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