Transmission Options

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:?: Hey everyone, i have a 1966 Mustang with the 200. I currently have the syncronized 3-speed tranny from the later models. Is there a company that makes 4 and 5 speed trannys for the 200? I've been looking everywhere to find nothing except the Dagenham 4-speed. They are rare and expensive maybe i'm looking in the wrong places idk... wanting to know if there is a cheaper way out...thanks
 
Since you already have the better three speed the only real option I would even consider would have to be a T5 upgrade. The 3spd and the 4spd have the same final gear ratio, so you would gain a gear in the middle somewhere, big whoopity doo. The 4spds also pretty dear to their owners so usually they are selling them at a premium. The dag transmissions are said to be weak and not worth swapping in unless you are truly restoring the car back to original, and even then there are some who would say why bother.

The T5 transmissions have a lower first gear and overdrive plus have the added benefit of being easier to find. A stock 6cyl can use either the 4cyl or the bent8 transmission. Those that have upgraded here have said that either is a great improvement over stock. Also since you already have a synchronized 3spd, you would need the same kit that is sold readily to bent8 owners for upgrading the trans (adapter plate/crossmember)

welcome to the forum
-ron
 
Do some searches here on the forum on T5. You will find a wealth of information. The conversion requires some special parts like Ron said, and you would probably need to have your driveshaft shortened. That said, once the installation is complete, EVERYBODY says that it's one of the best upgrades that you can do to your early Mustang. I'm currently installing a T5 out of a 92GT as part of my rebuild.

Kris
 
would i need an adapter kit for the 4-cyl tranny? I'm sorta new at this trans stuff and trying to learn the most i can through you guys. Also, will a new clutch and pressure plate be needed after the swap? What do you fellas suggest for me to do on this swap?...i want more gears with an upgrade to performance

-Seth

P.S. Running a lil low on cash at the moment, there a way to do this cheap?
 
The 4 cyl and V 8 t-5's use the same mounting pattern for either one, and yes, you will need an adapter plate.

The input shafts are a little bit different on each stle of trans. make sure you get the proper pilot bearing.

Do a search on here for TRANS or TRANSMISSION and I am sure all of your questions will be answered.
 
Here's a list of things that I know that you will need:

-T5 transmission (DUHH!!) These come from 79-93 Mustangs or 85-87 T-bird Turbo Coupes. The 4cyl and 8cyl T5's are geared differently, as is the one from the T-bird.

-T5 shifter (you can modify your original shift handle to mount to the T5 shifter for a stock look)

-Manual 6cyl bellhousing. You already have this if you have a 3.03 The bellhousing will have to be slightly modified to mount to the adapter plate, but it's a 10 minute job with a drill.

-T5 adapter plate to mount the T5 to the older bellhousing and give the proper input shaft spacing.

-9" manual flywheel from a 1968 or later 6cyl 200 (Not a 250) You can use an 8 1/2" recessed flywheel from an early model Mustang, but then you will HAVE to use a 3 finger pressure plate, because they don't make a diaphram type for the 8 1/2" as far as I know.

-Clutch kit for either the 8 1/2" or 9" flywheel (Clutch plate, Pressure Plate, Throwout Bearing) I'm using a later model kit for a 1978 Fairmont to get a diphram pressure plate rather than the early model 3 finger type. But if you do that, you still have to have the early model throw out bearing to match the fork on the bellhousing.

-Pilot bearing

-T5 crossmember with parking brake bracket. (This is a special piece designed to mount the T5 in a classic Mustang)

-T5 yoke (Another special piece designed to mount to a 6cyl driveshaft on a classic Mustang)

With the addition of the adapter plate, the driveshaft may be 1" too long and if so will have to be shortened.


Depending on what you end up paying for the T5, the total conversion can run well over $1K. 8cyl T5's tend to be quite a bit more expensive in the used market than the 4cyl models. The only real differences in them is the gear ratios, and the torque rating. The torque really isn't an issue with our sixes, but the gearing can be. If you have a high ratio rearend, the gearing of first gear in a 4cyl T5 will cause you to wind up first gear while still going really slow. I have a 3.20 rearend, and chose an 8cyl T5 with a 3.35 first gear. Most of the 4cyl T5's have a 3.97 first. Oh and don't get a T5 from a 94 or 95 mustang. The input shaft is longer on those, and they won't work without changing the shaft.

Here's a chart on the different T5 models: T5 Chart
 
appreciate the info guys...will get back to ya and post pics IF/WHEN I start on the swap
 
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