Valve Cover & Oil Pan Bolts

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I need some advice concerning the valve cover and oil pan bolts on my 1979 Ford Fairmont 200 cu. in. engine. As most of you have yourselves experienced, they tend to come loose and need to be re-tightened. Should I replace them with new bolts/washers, or will something like Loctite do the job? This engine has about 120,000 miles on it, and runs fine, has never given me any serious problems. Thank You for your help.
 
Don't use split-locks and don't over torque them as they will twist off.

I'd highly recommend a flat washer and certainly Loctite. Blue 242 is perfect for the bill, and they will not come loose on you again.

Al
 
I redid mine with socket head caps w/ a split washer and a flat. I only torqued by hand and the flat washer protects my covers. No problems and its been all summer in the heat? If your bolts constantly come loose, maybe the female threads in the hole are worn out!
 
8) none have come loose...I just prefer not to re-use any fasteners more than once. If I don't use loctite, I use anti-seize compound too.
 
The number one cause of anything loosing up is vibration. What has more vibration than anything? Your engine. Take a bolt with a split-lock and torque it to a rating. Then, loosen it and watch your off-torque. The initial break-free torque will be 10-20% less than the on torque, then it drops to nothing. Does that mean you should tighten your bolts 10-20% more? Absolutely not. The split lock acts like a spring and pushes the head of the bolt up. Now, do the same test with either a flat-washer or nothing and note the difference in off-torque. Big difference.

As a general rule, on a course thread, only about 30% of it is actually making contact. For a fine thread, there is about 45% contact. The rest of that space is air. In this space, fun things can occur like rust and other chemical reactions. This is not ideal, by any strecth.

What thread locker does is that it fills the air gap preventing any adverse chemical reactions, and it adds a layer of resistance. Install the same bolt using a thread locking agent, torque it to a specified level, then let it sit for 24 hours or so. So come back and try to take it off. The initial off-torque rating will be higher than the on-torque and you will have resistance throughout the entire bolt/nut loosening. This is ideal.

Hardware doesn't always like to stay tight in aluminum, therefore thread locker is highly recomended for aluminum assemblies. For example, every time I changed the oil in one of my cars w/ an aluminum cased auto tranny, every bolt on the the bottom pan was good for a turn and a half at the minimun, even with lockwashers. I removed and thread locked each bolt, then torqued them down and never had another problem for the next 40K miles before getting rid of the car.

BTW, I had a 3 hour seminar w/ a Loctite rep at work the other day, so I'm the 'expert of the hour' :D

Al
 
That is one of those things I think that separates average machine work from the more precise and long lasting methodology of precision machine work.

Before I assembled this engine I invested a Very Small amount of money into both loctite red and blue, now I use it on everything, might as well, it only adds a layer of safety to what you are doing, and the ability to sleep better at night.

I used Stage 8 Locking bolts on my FSPP Headers and still used loctite, on the manifold bolts for the 2v, I bought a set of Headers bolts from Clifford with a NASA compund on them to prevent vibration reverse on them, they are fantastic, dip them in some water, install and torque, wait 30 minutes before any applying any vibration. I love these, they stay put!
But the compound does not seize. So they can be pulled out easily. It is the same technology that holds the space shuttle together! Very Cool, I was weary at first till I did some research!

They were not very expensive. And they are selling these in place of the Locking header bolts, but I liked the locking tabbed bolts the best.


But I applied a bead of loctite to the first three threads of all of my engine bolts, and I also used all new Stainless Hardware, go the tech section Marco has engine kits for sale, they are worth their weight in gold. VERY NICE! washers for everything too... I love that!
 
Dang it...here I am holding a wrench and watching oil drip on my new concrete...and you guys are out there redefining the boundries of tightness and space.
 
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