What engine do I have????

[Anonymous]

I was told that my '60 Falcon had the original 144 in it. However, after impulsing buying a set of .030 over pistons, and finally pulling the old ones, it's definitely not a 144. Just using calipers, I get a bote of about 3.7. The engine number seems to be D8BE 80150B, but the 8s could be Bs and vce versa. On the head I have what seems to be an 8017, under which I have B7E 8080 AB. WHat the heck is this?

Thanks,
-Josh

 

[addo]

It's a 1978 motor - probably a 200. How many bolts attach the water pump?

 

[Anonymous]

It has 3 bolts on the water pump. It also has 2 dipsticks. What's with that?

-J

 

[Anonymous]

So I was told that it had the 144 in it, so when I replaced the clutch, I bough the clutch kit for the stepped flywheel. It matched the clutch I took out. So did someone in the past just bolt the '60 flywheel to a '78 200 so he could keep the crappy original tranny?

Thanks for the help!

 

[addo]

Sounds like the bell and box are original to the car. Definitely a 78 200 - if it were a 250, there would have been four bolts attaching the water pump and no way would the flywheel be stepped.

The two dipsticks are for the "front" oil and the "back" oil. You should find two corresponding drain plugs on the oil pan. As the motors ran hotter at the rear cylinders, you could run a different grade of oil for the back half.

Actually, there were some applications of the motor that used a different oil pan to the Falcons and thus needed the dipstick in a different place. The unwanted hole was usually plugged. Evidently the swapper-in decided it was cooler to have dual dipsticks than to plug the other hole - goes faster, y'know. There's really only one lot of oil in there, front to rear.

Cheers, Adam.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the info. Whoever did the swap was kind of a bonehead. I didn't discover until my 1st oilchange that the front dipstick is about an inch too long! Bad.... I've got it torn down now, as I'm putting new rods, bearings, rings, etc in it. Thanks for the help!

-J

 

[MustangSix]

Definitely a 1978 casting number for a 200. The tow dipsticks were to accomodate the rear sump Fox-body. Most likely this engine came from a Fairmont, Mustang, or Granada from 1978-81.

 

[Anonymous]

The two dipsticks are for the "front" oil and the "back" oil. You should find two corresponding drain plugs on the oil pan. As the motors ran hotter at the rear cylinders, you could run a different grade of oil for the back half.

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jcronin, one of Aussies favorite past times are to "stir" Americans.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I wasn't buying the dual sump theory! I may not know what engine I have, but I have changed the oil a couple of times. I'm kind of excited that it's a 200. It definitley broadens the possibilities.

Thanks again!

-J

 

[WhitePony]

Hmmm...... I'm glad that this came up.

I'm switching to a D8 block from a Fairmont in my 65 Mustang, and I knew that I was going to need the 65 oil pan (front sump), but I totally forgot about the fact that the dip stick would be in a different place. DOHH!!

I looked at the place wherre the front dipstick mounts, and it's plugged. Any idea what kind of plug? Will it have to be drilled out or is it a knock-out plug? The plug is recessed into the hole, so if it's a knock-out I guess I'd have to do it from the bottom of the block. Also, how does the dipstick tube come off? I can't seem to get it to budge.

Thanks,
Kris

 

[Asa]

plug should just be pressed in there
same with the dipstick, just clean around it and give it a good wiggle

 

[MercuryMarc]

I just dealt with my "double dipstick" on my 78 Fairmont 200 block. Both dipsticks were there, but the rear one was hacked off after 1 inch- this was because the oil pan was for a Comet and it had a front sump- the rear dipstick just acted like a plug for the 2nd oil tube.
I tried to pull and then twist the tube off - I succeded in snapping it off with a ragged edge. So I filed it down flush to the block and then plugged it with an aluminum dowel. I filed the dowel a little to give it a little taper and banged it in with a hammer. If I need to remove it I will knock it out from below.
The shiny aluminum plug sure looks cooler than a pair of rusted dipsticks!
Good Luck-
Marc in SF
63 Comet
Rebuilding a 78 Fairmont 200 w/82 Duraspark Dist
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