All Small Six Continuing the journey - T5 Upgrade

[awasson]

If you find you still have an imbalance, it is a lot of work but if you rotate the pressure plate 120 degrees at a time, or whatever the bolt pattern allows sometimes you can make it smoother.

Thanks. That’s a good tip. I’m hoping to get the flywheel turned tomorrow and then I’ll put it back with the new clutch and pressure plate. Then I’ll start it up to see how smooth it is. If it has a wobble, I’ll have plenty of time to adjust it 120 degrees at a time to see if I can improve it.

 

[drag-200stang]

Of course, the disc has to be centered with the trans input in place.

 

[awasson]

Of course, the disc has to be centered with the trans input in place.

I figured I would use the alignment tool to get the clutch disk centered when I install the new pressure plate and then leave the clutch pedal linkage disengaged until the transmission is attached so I don’t inadvertently engage it and displace the clutch.

 

[drag-200stang]

The ones I have used were not that good, I would not chance it, put the trans. in and maybe everything is smooth a silk and you are done.

 

[awasson]

flywheel skimmed and reinstalled. New diaphragm pressure plate and clutch in. Bell housing back on and now I wait for the correct adapter so I can finish the install.

 

[rickwrench]

Check your pinion angle against the engine/trans driveline angle, once everything is in. T5 is big up top and usually adds a couple degrees of down angle to the driveline (in my cases it's been an additional 3-3.5)˚. If you don't compensate, you'll likely have u-joint buzz on the highway.
There is a bit more room in a Mustang tunnel vs Falcon, but the issue still exists. Could be fine, but you should at least check.
Spacers on the trans mount to raise the T5 as high as possible (without rubbing) and angle wedges under the spring perches are the common solutions.

 

[awasson]

Check your pinion angle against the engine/trans driveline angle, once everything is in. T5 is big up top and usually adds a couple degrees of down angle to the driveline (in my cases it's been an additional 3-3.5)˚. If you don't compensate, you'll likely have u-joint buzz on the highway.
There is a bit more room in a Mustang tunnel vs Falcon, but the issue still exists. Could be fine, but you should at least check.
Spacers on the trans mount to raise the T5 as high as possible (without rubbing) and angle wedges under the spring perches are the common solutions.

Thanks for the advice, I will definitely check that when I install the transmission. I've just added it to my many, many notes on my checklist. I have an aftermarket trans mount from California Pony Cars but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some difference and I'd like it to be as smooth and happy as possible.

 

[powerband]

... and the shifter box/tunnel adds a few inches.
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some encouragement:
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3OTT to T5 '74 Maverick
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'63 Falcon Dagenham to T5 W/'formed' firewall, xmember fab.
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have fun

 

[awasson]

... and the shifter box/tunnel adds a few inches.
.
some encouragement:
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3OTT to T5 '74 Maverick
. .
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'63 Falcon Dagenham to T5 W/'formed' firewall, xmember fab.
. .
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have fun

Thanks. Those installs sure turned out nice. Everything sits up so much higher than the mustang. On second though, I think the mustang transmission tunnel must sit higher. As far as I can tell the housing will be below the level of the tunnel but the shifter mechanism will be higher than, which I think will be advantageous. I hope I can change the springs and tension based on how I like the feel of it.

In other news, FedEx has notified me that the incorrect part is going to arrive at California Pony Cars today and the fellow I have been speaking with says he'll do everything in his power to get me the new one asap!!

Everyone I talked to at CPC has been great and the kit I bought, aside from the small/large bell housing discrepancy is really decent.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[awasson]

Well… The part I sent back to California Pony Cars via FedEx that was supposed to arrive Wednesday, last week, finally arrived this morning after spending most of last week in Oregon and then heading to Texas on Monday. It’s not that far past Sacramento. I could have driven it there in 15-20 hours. Now I wait for the correct part to be shipped back.

Now, something I discovered is that they don’t have a kit listed that will work for my car and likely for a bunch of 1966 Mustang 3-speed cars because mine has a bell housing they don’t list for 1966; C7ZA-6394-A. They have that listed as a 1967 bell housing but their 1967 inline 6 kit doesn’t show that bell housing so I don’t think it’s possible for my car to just go online and get the right kit. I’ve mentioned this to the sales rep, I’m in contact with but I don’t think he really understands how many variation there were with the dual pattern block inline-6, 66 Mustang. If I had the 2.77 3-speed, I’d have been fine became it uses a smaller bell housing but I may have had a smaller clutch (I’m not sure). Mine has the top loader 3.03 transmission and bigger bell housing and that’s where everything went sideways for getting the right kit.

Anyway, I’m just anxiously waiting for the correct part to arrive. More later.

Andrew