All Small Six Early 200 distributor confusion
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This relates to all small sixes
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that's a special block (no 2nd position, never had 1).
"...There is also one other date code on blocks and head ps that looks likes a small cast metal tag with a straight slot screw head on each end it will have two or three numbers and one letter on it. That maybe of help if you find it..." and the
"road draft tube" pad should be checked. After best practices on ID - some choices can B made. Machining of the oil centric is only one choice and the least cheesy to use ur wrds. Many options.
When one wants to mod out of oem engineering there is alot of research to do, choices to make. U may want to start w/a different motor and some1 else doing the heavy lifting 4 U. This block might best B in the hands of an oe owner than a new-to-it-modded?
"...There is also one other date code on blocks and head ps that looks likes a small cast metal tag with a straight slot screw head on each end it will have two or three numbers and one letter on it. That maybe of help if you find it..." and the
"road draft tube" pad should be checked. After best practices on ID - some choices can B made. Machining of the oil centric is only one choice and the least cheesy to use ur wrds. Many options.
When one wants to mod out of oem engineering there is alot of research to do, choices to make. U may want to start w/a different motor and some1 else doing the heavy lifting 4 U. This block might best B in the hands of an oe owner than a new-to-it-modded?
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Leave it to me to find something super weird. There aren't any tags on the engine, though. If it had one it might have been lost in the rebuild. My Comet is also pretty rare in it's factory configuration from what I understand. DSO code Home Office Reserve with a 4speed Dagenham, factory.
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I'm thinking I may just go the easy but expensive route. Vintage inlines has an HEI that fits the smaller hole and oil pump drive. Didn't really want HEI but it seems that's my only option without machining something.
More than few site members used what's sometimes called the Aussie DuraSpark II Bosh electronic distributor perfect fit for the early blocks bolts in no block machineing required. Our site member " Xctasy " might have more info on how they are set up and work. You would then bolt in and use the 1965 up 5/16 drive oil pump and 5/16 inch hex drive oil pump drive shaft. I have seen new one for sale a few times on the Australian Ebay sales site nice looking and compact size. I going to do some more digging but it sure looks like you have one of the early 200 short blocks, I would sure use it especially since you also have the Dagham 4 speed that should be very good combo as well as being rare does your Comet happen to be a 1963 1/2 Fastback S22 or 1964? Personally I don't much care for the DUI or HEI in these early cars but they will work if you happen to go that way know that you can't fit them with the factory Ford power steering pumps they set up to high. After finding some adistional info I also went back and Edited and corrected all my mistakes so take a look at those again if you want. Found this on EBay.com Austraila so added into this post, it might be an aftermarket copy of one of those Bosch Electronic Distributor's it sure kind of looks like what I remember them to (see below link for info). Best of luck Edited
Ford Australian Six'es (fits the 188, 200, 221, & 250 pre cross flow engines) Electronic Distribitor (A Bosch Copy?)
Ford Australian Six'es (fits the 188, 200, 221, & 250 pre cross flow engines) Electronic Distribitor (A Bosch Copy?)
Ford 6 250 2V Pursuit 6cyl Electronic Distributor with bosch type coil | eBay
Distributor and bosch type coil kit. With this distributor comw with an external coil, the 2 wires will hook-up to the coil and you're"ready to run". Nothing else required! 1, Bilt into the coil type ( GT40R Bosch ).
www.ebay.com.au
I also remembered another more "New Tech" way you could do this by still using your old LOM Distributor. There wouldn’t be any need for any internal mods made to your newly rebuilt engine. The stock Load O Matic Distributor is used and moded so its advance system is locked out. You then use the CB Performance Black Box (see below link for more info) you then can program the CB Performance Black Boxes timing curve the way you want it. Quick and easy to install then connect up your lap top and start programming might be just the ticket for you needed use. Best of luck and if you can find some extra time later please take lots of pictures of your engine and car I woul be interested in seeing it.
CB Performance Black Box
CB Performance Black Box
CB Performance Black Box Programmable Timing Control Module
Turns your old school mechanical advance distributor into a high-powered programmable ignition with CB Performance's new Black Box Programmable Timing Control Module!
www.cbperformance.com
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My car is a 63 Mercury Comet S-22 Convertible. Factory Dagenham 4 on the floor. Originally came with a 170 and was in the car up until about 15 years ago when I swapped in the 200 my uncle gave me. My parents bought it used from Kelleher Motors in Ellensburg WA in about 1971. I believe it was a college students car before that and before that a Home Office Reserve car. My parents sold the car to my grandpa who kept until he passed and he left it to me. I have memories of being driven to my first day of school in it, with the top down.
The Aussie DS2 sounds like a good deal. I can change out an oil pump. Or the black box, I'd want to read the instructions to see how it works. Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. I will get some more pictures of everything and post them.
The Aussie DS2 sounds like a good deal. I can change out an oil pump. Or the black box, I'd want to read the instructions to see how it works. Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. I will get some more pictures of everything and post them.
Wow those 1963 S22 Convertible's are a great looking Comet model as well as being rare, it's also wonderful that it has such a great personal family history too. Excellent car to keep and restore, that early 200 six is just perfect for it in many ways it's a real period correct Hot Rod build that will look like its also factory original. What's the build date on the Warrantee Tag? Will be looking forward to seeing the pictures and if you wanted you could start a build thread below in the Falcon Nest forum we have several Comet builds in that section. Best of luck Edited
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I posted in the Falcon section with a couple pictures and some history.
Hi gb500, no not yet I would sure like to if I get another project Falcon or Comet. Howerver i used to buy lots of parts from that company, like their Weber Carb Kits that I used on all the little import pickup I worked on. I also knew the owner back then in the early 1980's to 1990's they had an excellent reputation. Their store was only about a couple miles from the Construction Yard I worked out of in Visalia, Calif. it looks like it's still located at the same address.
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I emailed and asked about using this with the LOM. They replied stating that as long as I have a way to lock out the advance, it will work.
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So, I take it is it possible to lockout the advance on an LOM? If so, how is this normally done?
There are no weights in a loadamatic distributor. Just tack weld the advance plate to one anchor of one of the springs. Just prevent movement of the plate.
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