Flooding out

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I have noticed that when I shut off the car, my carb keeps dripping fuel for like a minute. Im losing alot precious gas and on top of that...I cant start my car because it has fouled my plugs. So I have to wait 10 minutes for them to dry back up. I have never heard of this before. Any suggestion on what this could be? thanks guys.
 
If your fuel line is anywhere near a heat source the fuel inside the line will get hot, expand, even boil, and force it's way past the float needle into the carb. Then it will pour into your engine. On some vehicles, such as yours, it would seem this only happens when the engine is shut off and the heat has a chance to "soak" into the lines. This can eventually lead to vapor lock problems.
 
Can also be caused by fuel pressure being too high and forcing the needle off it's seat under the float. What engine/carb do you have? If the carb is any variant of the Weber design, you need fuel pressure to be less than 3psi (max).
 
I had the same problem with my 63 170 Six. Only thing that cured my problem was a complete carb rebuild.

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i have already rebuilt the crb and I wasnt having this problem. Im am going to look for a heat source near my line, because I have replaced some line that may have been re-routed. Ill check it out. Hope I find the problem. I have a ford granada with a 3.3l and a 1946 carb
 
Sounds like the needle and seat and possibly the float might be wrong. I would go back in and check for debris or dirt on the needle. Then verify the float setting.

I have a 1946 carb on my car and when I started to disassemble it for the rebuild I was amazed at the pressure the carb could hold on to. I got a good spray of gasoline when I loosened the fuel line to the carb. As a test you might run the engine, let the gas piss out, and THEN loosen the fuel line to the carb, see if there is any pressure left. Just a thought.
 
Hi, backyard;
You're being introduced to the world of the 1946 Holley. It can be a bugger until you understand it: by practice over the last 8 years, I've become an expert on this one device!

First of all, the overflow you're seeing is caused by the hot soak. The fuel lines heat up after engine shutoff and the fuel pushes past the float valve and into the fuel bowl, overflowing into the engine. However, the reason it did not bother you before the rebuild is because you have inadvertently set the float level a bit too high. Given the way the rebuild kit told you to do it, it's extremely easy to do. Here's the kicker: you MUST get another rebuild kit before you go in and readjust that float, because as soon as you open the top of the carb, it will ruin the seal around the vacuum port that closes the power valve. If, in fact, you assembled and disassembled it once (or more times) with the existing gasket, it already leaks, which makes the hot soak situation even worse.

So, here's what to do:
1.) Go get another rebuild kit. The cheap ones from Checker will do just fine ($9, I think). You will need that large 'top' gasket.
2.) When setting the float, go to the next LOWER setting you see in the chart that comes with the kit. I think I used the California setting on mine last time. Since the 1946 runs rich to begin with, this will make the engine smoother, anyway, and won't hurt the engine one bit. It gives the float bowl some extra room to hold the fuel that comes in when the fuel line gets hot after engine shutoff.
3.) If you are looking for better gas mileage, cut 1/2 turn off of the spring that holds the power valve open: most kits give you a new one, anyway. If you have 2 springs available, select the one that's weakest. If they are the same, cut that 1/2 coil off of one and use it. This will let the power valve open slightly later. Since the intake log does not respond quickly to large throttle changes, you probably won't notice any difference in acceleration: I have tried it with 1/2 and 1 turn cut off and noticed no acceleration differences, but got 1/2 MPG for my trouble (in-town driving).
4.) This is VERY important: most of the time, the cover's screws are stripped on these carbs. If yours are, ESPECIALLY the CENTER ONE, then go to a hardware store and get a #12-24 tap and screws, about 1-1/8" long. Drill and tap the stripped ones up to #12-24. Reason: if the center screw or any of the 3 across the carb in that plane are stripped, the power valve WILL leak fuel all the time.

Check this, too: open the hot-air line from the exhaust manifold where it plugs into the choke housing. Run the engine and see if exhaust gases are coming out of the little pipe. If it is, then the tube inside the exhaust manifold is corroded away and this has been overheating your carb. If you're lucky, it has not warped the top plate of the carb (if it has, you need a new carb, period). If the carb is OK, then make a new choke heater by wrapping 6 turns of 1/4" copper pipe (like from a refrigerator's icemaker water line) around the exhaust manifold where it joins the exhaust pipe. Connect one end to the choke, like it was before, and connect the other end to the nipple that comes out of the passenger's side of the carb's air horn, at the top. This is where cool air enters this heater system. It gets pulled along by the manifold vacuum that is ported into the choke housing, and is required to make the electric choke function properly. (See my other posts about the 1946 carb. Some are in the Hard-Core Tech section).

Drop me a PM if you need more help.
 
Very good post by MarkP!!! I will try to remember his guidance if my problem comes back! I took my carb to a very reliable carb rebuilder here in OKC and he must have followed the same line of corrective actions. Yes MarkP, I was in the 60s with a 63 1/2 Sprint and I can remember most (?) of them....

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Well, it checked out all the heat sources near my carb and fuel lines. It checked out ok, there are no direct heat sources near any of these. looks im going to rebuild the carb once more. I will adjust my float level and may try cutting the spring. I have been running tests and this is waht I found out.
If i start my car let it run and stand idle for awhile and it wont leak gas into the carb. it only occurs when i run it hard and shut off the car.
 
Guys, I finaly went out and bought a rebuild kit, I took my holley 1946 single barrel off today and dismanteld it. As I was taking it apart I accedentaly broke one of the little brown plastic pieces that gets pushed in after the float is in place (one on each side) :roll: . Im not sure what you call them, hopefully you guys know what im talking about. I broke one basically in half. I repaired it by adding some CA but im not sure If it will effect the carbs performace. Im going to put the carb back together tommorow. Think my repair of this brown plastic piece will hold up? anyone know what that piece is for? My guess is that it just keeps the float in place. Thanks guys, Kevin
 
Hi, backyard;
While I have not seen a 1946 with inserts like you describe, I suspect you are indicating the "clip(s)" that hold the float pivot shaft in place. In all of the 1946s I'm familiar with, this is a "C"-shaped spring steel clip instead of 2 separate hold-down units. However, I have seen plastic hold-downs used in other carbs, like the Autolite 2150.

The CA will dissolve almost instantly when gas is applied, so your 'fix' won't work.

If, however, this "block" was cracked during your first rebuild, then you have most likely located the problem that is causing excessively high float levels in the carb (and the overflowing you described). You can make a new clip out of spring material or even a bit of brass strip from a hobby shop. There is likely a picture of the clip in your rebuild kit's exploded view of the carb, often called the "float pin retainer". This clip is a bow-shape that is tall enough that the rounded part interferes with the top plate of the carb, so that screwing down the top plate presses down on the ends of the shaft that holds the float in place. If it does not press down far enough, the float opens far more than expected, flooding the carb (and the engine).

I don't know if the rebuild kit you have includes a new ratainer clip (some do), but if so, you could just use that one instead of making one.

I hope this helps. Don't put the carb back together until you hold those pin ends down properly or you'll be right back in the same problem again.
 
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