Import Killer's First Turbo Pictures are here!

[66Sprint6]

Ok Dan, once I pay off this tranny problem, were goin at it. We will do an intercooler tho, just for the heck of it, and I wanna drive it ALOT, lol. I am workin alot more now so I may be able to do it later this summer, possibly winter time! Yours looks aweosme man, cant wait to see it in person!!!
Matt

 

[CobraSix]

Inliner,

you sure a bonnet like that pressurizes the fuel bowl? I always thought it had to surround the entire carb, not just the air horns.

Slade

 

[Kstang]

That is what i thought that to pressurize the fule bowls you needed a carb box.

The Grand National Turbo is a T3/T4 hybrid.

I am thinking about doing a Turbo 4V Oz Head 200, with T5. So i am trying to learn as much as i can. There is Some book that has been recomended in the past to read, If any one knows the name can you post the name of the book and author so i can pick it up.

kevin

 

[XFlow_Fairlane]

well if I am home this summer watch out guys...got the parts laying around (t3 turbo turbonetics godzilla BOV, water injection setup...) I am going ot fab up a plate steel manifold to mount he turbo with short runners and right where I want it...mainly I want a good bassis for a later 250 turbo build up.

gotta love that I have a t5 to put behind it and an 8" rear and nice bigf brakes....soon to be PBR binded discs with gt rears...

nick

 

[Anonymous]

Great looking install. You raised the bar for all of us.

Draw-through in the works.

Thanks man! I am not sure how high if a bar you are talking about but......... I am happy with it! So your working on a draw through? I can't wait to see how that turns out. Keep us up on it!

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

This is just too cool!

In the end we really need to make this a Sticky!


-Chris

I am still working on the parts list. I just added some more to it tonight!

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

Ok Dan, once I pay off this tranny problem, were goin at it. We will do an intercooler tho, just for the heck of it, and I wanna drive it ALOT, lol. I am workin alot more now so I may be able to do it later this summer, possibly winter time! Yours looks aweosme man, cant wait to see it in person!!!
Matt

(MXC) "Get it on!"

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

Inliner,

you sure a bonnet like that pressurizes the fuel bowl? I always thought it had to surround the entire carb, not just the air horns.

Slade

Yea, the fuel bowl is pressurized with the bonnet. You must use a solid float so the boost will not crush it under pressure.

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

That is what i thought that to pressurize the fule bowls you needed a carb box.

The Grand National Turbo is a T3/T4 hybrid.

I am thinking about doing a Turbo 4V Oz Head 200, with T5. So i am trying to learn as much as i can. There is Some book that has been recomended in the past to read, If any one knows the name can you post the name of the book and author so i can pick it up.

kevin

I think a stock GN turbo is just a T-3. WOW! A turbocharged Oz 4v and T-5?!!! Yea, that would RULE!! Try to explain that to someone! I think about half the people I have told about my turbo six in an old Stang think I am full of it!

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

well if I am home this summer watch out guys...got the parts laying around (t3 turbo turbonetics godzilla BOV, water injection setup...) I am going ot fab up a plate steel manifold to mount he turbo with short runners and right where I want it...mainly I want a good bassis for a later 250 turbo build up.

gotta love that I have a t5 to put behind it and an 8" rear and nice bigf brakes....soon to be PBR binded discs with gt rears...

nick

SWEET!!! Tell Dismo to put a move on his junk so you can start working on yours!

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

OK this is my first post here, I just recently got a 66 mustang with an I6, wasnt sure what i wanted to do with it, my first thought was a V8 swap, but i really dont feel like going through all that... then i see this!! man i know exactly what im doing now, that is awesome! I just got finished putting a 2.3 turbo motor in my 89 stang, i have spent a lot of time over at turboford.org and have really gotten into the turbo thing.

So my question is this: whats the best resource for info on this kind of mod? and how did you mount that up, custom bracket? and i too am awaiting your parts/price list!!

 

[Anonymous]

: How did you route the oil supply line from the block and back into the block? what about the cooling system, does it run water from the water pump or is it just oil cooled?

My neighbor has a Buick GN and extra turbos, so this application would be Perfect for my '75 Comet GT (250 IL-6).

If you could, would you draw a simple plan of the exhaust plumbing, oil and or water routes?

This is Way too cool! I was going to do a V8 swap, but I love the IL6's too much.

I also have 2 t-2 Garret turbos from a ford 2.3 if anybody is interested, first one to make an offer gets 'em.

Later All,
Keebler

 

[Anonymous]

1. a header isn't really cost-effective, since a tuned length is only going to help at 1 rpm, and the extra surface area loses a lot of energy from the pipes (slows down the turbine).
2. the T3 is sized for a 231" motor, so the A/R may be a bit large for a 200" (slower spool, less max boost), but the up-side is that exhaust back pressure will also be less. This is what makes a DIY JY turbo expensive - not getting the turbo right the first time, since a new turbine housing or wheel is $$$.
3. as long as all float chamber vents are covered or plugged a hat works OK.
4. venturi works on pressure differential, and can't tell the diff between pressure and vacuum. However, that's the single biggest problem in a blow-through - you have no boost enrichment, since the carb cannot detect a change in density, so the fuel supplied by the nozzle is the same amount for WOT no boost (no vacuum) and 20 lbs. boost (no vacuum). No, a boost referenced fuel pump does not cure this, because the discharge from the jet is still controlled by the venturi (you can't pump fuel from the jet), although higher bowl pressure will increase flow somewhat it's not linear and not accurate. On a Holley an easy way to enrich the power system is drill out the PVCR, which only functions when the power valve is open. This allows the carb to run normally on the usual main jet size, but much more fuel at WOT. NOT a complete cure, because the PVCR is open at WOT before boost begins also, and will cause a big flat spot until you spool up. Since the size will not be found the first time, a Percy's, Eddy etc. metering block is helpful. My choice is to simply thread the PVCR hole and use replaceable jets (much cheaper, but you have to get wet to change them).
5. restrict the main air bleeds 50% (C. Bell).
6. I would be try to "duct out" the vacuum passage that controls the PV to an external hose, and feed it from the turbo discharge, so the PV only opens under boost.
Some hints:
http://www.vs57.com/carb.htm

 

[MustangSix]

I agree with Panic on the exhaust. Unless you are building an all-out turbo machine, the stock iron manifold should be sufficient for a mild street turbo application. I think I would probably step up to stainless for a J-pipe, though. The extra heat will quickly kill a mild steel pipe. And a premium exhaust gasket would help as well. The stock Felpro replacements are barely adequate as is.

You can pick up an oil supply by Teeing into the oil pressure guage. The return can be a simple NPT fitting into the pan above oil level.

 

[addo]

I'm not trying to be cantankerous, but surely a cast header (not that it exists - yet) is a better option than a stock manifold? The flow in that factory manifold is just so tragic.

Adam.

 

[MustangSix]

True, but no such animal exists. Besides, look at some factory efforts. The Buick V6 manifolds look terrible, but work well.

 

[XFlow_Fairlane]

I will have my manifold by th eend of the week....with pics....

1.5"x2" square tube laid out like the stock manifold (much bigger ports though) with the turbo mounted right in the middle. I have it mocked up righ tnow with my airfilter on it and it is near a perfect fit in there.....

gonna look nice with the turbonectics BOV.

gonna be fun with the T5 going in too

watch out dan there will be another turbo player in three months!!

 

[Anonymous]

OK this is my first post here, I just recently got a 66 mustang with an I6, wasnt sure what i wanted to do with it, my first thought was a V8 swap, but i really dont feel like going through all that... then i see this!! man i know exactly what im doing now, that is awesome! I just got finished putting a 2.3 turbo motor in my 89 stang, i have spent a lot of time over at turboford.org and have really gotten into the turbo thing.

So my question is this: whats the best resource for info on this kind of mod? and how did you mount that up, custom bracket? and i too am awaiting your parts/price list!!

Yea man, keep the six! They rule! If you need some info on anything just ask on here. There are a LOT of people who know there stuff on here. Also www.turbomustangs.com is just about the best place to find info on turbocharging almost anything. I have got a lot of help from both sites. As far as my turbo bracket......it is just a peice of flat metal hammered and cut into shape and it bolts to the front stud on the head. Very simple and easey to make!

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

: How did you route the oil supply line from the block and back into the block? what about the cooling system, does it run water from the water pump or is it just oil cooled?

My neighbor has a Buick GN and extra turbos, so this application would be Perfect for my '75 Comet GT (250 IL-6).

If you could, would you draw a simple plan of the exhaust plumbing, oil and or water routes?

This is Way too cool! I was going to do a V8 swap, but I love the IL6's too much.

I also have 2 t-2 Garret turbos from a ford 2.3 if anybody is interested, first one to make an offer gets 'em.

Later All,
Keebler

The oil feed line starts at the stock oil pressure gauge port. It now has a brass "T" one side goes to my oil pressure gauge and the other goes to a metal brake line that I bent around the block and it threads into the turbo. The return is a 15" long 1/2" hydrolic line from TSC. One connector is welded to the stock oil return flange from the turbo and the other is welded to a hole I had to cut in the oil pan above the oil level. No water going to the GN turbo so I did not even have to mess with that at all. I can't really do a good job of explaning all this and I have no clue how I would draw it out so maby I need to take some more detailed pics.

Dan

 

[Anonymous]

I will have my manifold by th eend of the week....with pics....

1.5"x2" square tube laid out like the stock manifold (much bigger ports though) with the turbo mounted right in the middle. I have it mocked up righ tnow with my airfilter on it and it is near a perfect fit in there.....

gonna look nice with the turbonectics BOV.

gonna be fun with the T5 going in too

watch out dan there will be another turbo player in three months!!

SWEEEEEETTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan