New/rebuilt carbs- which brand is best?

[Anonymous]

Okay, I'm on my 2nd Carter YF. This one is not as bad as the last one, but still has problems. Accel. pump is bad, run's too lean, misfires at 1100 rpm, and won't idle worth %$#@ untill the car has been warm for at least 10 min. of driving. The last one misfired worse, but idled fine when stone cold. I've adjusted everthing as much as I can and it's time to try something else.

The local parts store got it from Autoline in Canada as they said that brand is better than Tomco (had really bad luck with that brand of rebuilt 1100 a few years back) It cost me about $105 + core. I've heard that holley rebuilds both 1100's as well as Carters- is the extra cost worth it? I'd like to just bypass all this trouble I'm having with the one barrel setup and get a 2-v head and 2bbl carb, but that takes time and moola I don't have at the moment. This is my daily driver and I've been dealing with this hassle for 2 months - I need to fix it- NOW! Any other brands I should consider?

Thanks,
Sedanman

 

[Anonymous]

PONY CARBURETORS BEST CARB SHOP IN THE COUNTRY IF U ASK ME. THEY HELP WITH EVERY THING AND THERE REAL NICE FOLKS OVER THERE.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't have a core to send them so it would cost me about $250- $300 to get a blueprinted 1101- too much for me!

 

[Anonymous]

Why not rebuild it your self? I rebuild all of my carbs myself including my 1100, they are very simple. Not to mention the kit only cost $17.00 and I already had a gallon of carb dip.

 

[ludwig]

Pony Carb has no interest whatsoever in your Carter and does not support it in any way. On their installation video of the 1100, John holds up a Carter and says "This has no core value," puts it down and moves on.

Get a kit and do it yourself.

 

[CZLN6]

Howdy Thor and All:

I don't know of a brand of rebuilt carbs, But-

It's time you recognize that a rebuilt carb is only as good as-
1- The core the rebuilder started with,
2- the quality of the kit or parts that went into the rebuild,
3- the quality and care of the re-builder.
These three variables give very low odds of getting a rebuilt carb that is perfect, out of the box.

I have yet to get a rebuilt that worked, as it came. For most mechanics it is standard procedure to disassemble a rebuilt to assure that-
1- all parts that are supposed to be there are there,
2- That all parts are properly adjusted
3- That everthing that's 'sposed to be tight is tight, and everything that's 'sposed to move moves.
4- That everything is clean and free of junk.
5- It is properly adjusted for its intended us.

Since it is almost always necessary to rebuild a rebuilt carb, why not start with a good core of your choosing, buy a kit and some cleaner and do it yorself to begin with. These one barrels are not rocket science. (The Holley #1946s are still mysterious to me)

Find a complete core that has a tight throttle shaft. It is best if it shows no sign of previous leaks, either at gasket lines, fuel intake or base. A uniformly dirty carb is a good sign. Warped gasket joints, worn throttle shafts, stripped threads or missing parts are the most common culling factors. Typically carbs from cars with an auto trans show less throttle shaft wear than carbs from cars with a standard trans.

An ongoing headache with the 1100/1101/early YFs is the unfiltered hot choke air intake. It is particulary bad in cold and dusty conditions.

Know that 1101s were 1st used on full size 223 six Ford cars and trucks in 1963. These were manual choke carbs. They had a SCV until '65. In '65 all got the hot air auto choke system. The 1101 used on '69 250 had no SCV. Depending on your distributor your choice.

One last observation- For all the time and money you've spent on this carb problems, the PONY Carb solution doesn't seems so out of line. AND-

Whatever you do, keep it clean and learn to tune it.

Sorry to be so blunt and pragmatic, but it's the truth.

Adios, David

 

[Anonymous]

To those of you except David, who's been following my other threads, I've said several times that the problem is I don't have a core to rebuild. I have a '68 200 with a '69 head, and a '64 170 1100 carb. I need to buy a NEW rebuilt carb, or find one to rebuild, that's intended to go on my engine. I KNOW that pony does not do carters- that's why I did not go that route. Several folks here have had good luck with the YF and since I've never been successful in getting an 1100 to run good I thought I'd try something else.

I don't want to pay pony for a core charge and rebuilt carb, (about what, $250?) when I plan to go to a differant head and 2bbl down the road anyhow. Nope, I don't have time do that 2-v head swap right now I'd send them my 170 1100 as a swap for a core for a 200 carb but know for a fact that they won't do that- tried it already!

I have scoured all the wrecking yards in our area- no early autolites at all. Even the two fairmonts I found were stripped of their carbs. I posted on the parts wanted forum here that I was looking for a good rebuildable carb and got no replies. I'm a little leary of buying one off of e-bay and getting something with a loose shaft or warped flange surface (as is the case on all of my 1100's) I just have not been able to find anything worth rebuilding.

Sorry if I'm sounding a bit upset- I fell into the trap of thinking that it would be best for me financially to sell my unrelialbe daily driver VW golf and drive the "simple and reliable" falcon. It has not turned out that way and I'm about ready to go and buy another car to drive as I just don't have time for this right now. This is why I went the route of buying a rebuilt carb- I need to drive the car, not work on it. Now it has electrical problems (bad turn signal wire or switch), I've been freezing my butt off out in the cold under the dash trying to fix that, driving a borrowed car with a broken seat, and I've about had it......

 

[mugsy]

Pony Carb SUX!!!!

I bought one of their POS and it was nothing but trouble . I called them like 10 times to try and troubleshoot the POS, all they ever said was that everything else was wrong but their carb . Long story short, I rebuilt the 1946 Autolite replacement that originally came on the car and got rid of the stumble, heisitation and other problems that the Pony Carb had :x . If you buy from Pony and their product doesn't work, you are left hangin' in the breeze (and $200 poorer ).

 

[Anonymous]

Mugsy,

were you able to return it under warranty? I've mostly heard good things about their products, but the one time I dealt with them it seemed they were trying to rip me off. Told me the carb I sent them was not for a '64 falcon- but it was. So they would not take it for a core. They wanted something like 30 bucks to throw in a choke tube If I bought an 1101 from them. $289 for the carb and core, plus the choke tube. That's $320 for a one barrel carb!

 

[mugsy]

C-dan,

It is a person fault of mine, but I am too patient. I bought the carb and installed it but only drove the car sporatically for the next 9 months to a year. I was out of town alot due to work and could only work ont he car on the weekends. I should have bought the thing, put it on, and if it gave me any problems sent it back. I do not know what their "warranty" is, but I figured after owning the carb for over 9 months, regardless of the milage, they were not going to take it back. And as I said before, when trying to troubleshoot it, they said everything else was the problem. They were able to diagnose over the phone that my balancer had moved, my tach was junk, my dizzy was bad, I didn't know how to start the car, the initial timing was off.... you get the picture.