Which is easiest Turbo or ?

[Anonymous]

Execute (or anyone else?)
Im thinking down the track (not now) when the sale of some land comes through of putting either a turbo or a blower on the 250 2V in the Cortina.
All Im really interested in is the simplest one of the two to install. And I dont like reving to get power (pref 2500 to 4000 maybe 4500 rpm) If this is the case which one would be easiest.
Castlemaine rod shop said they would sell me a blower they use on the holden six without the kit (whole kit and blower is $1800) and I could make my own parts. The way he said it made me think he thought it would be a peice of cake (Im not so sure?)
I have a "bit" of technical skill and a mate who is a welder and I noticed there is some sturdy unused mounting holes on the dizzy side of the engine and room there for whatever.
Is there a simple step by step way to do it (and making parts) on a link somewhere. Oh and thanks for the tip on the Wade. Cant do it yet. Probably wont latter unless Im pretty confident I can do it with some mates help and the right info.

 

[Anonymous]

Just realised there is only one side with enough room for a supercharger and it has a dizzy towards the front and would sit right under the supercharger, Holden sixes have the dizzy in the middle?

 

[xctasy]

If you check on some old air conditioning links, there are photos of the huge A/C compressor used for the 200 cube US engines. They are just the same as the ones used on 302 and 351 Clevelands until 1983. Ford Broncos got them till 1985. They are just massive, and an SC12 or SC14 could sit in the same position as the air con unit. They are mounted quite high on the left, above the ignition. Fairly easy to use the same bracket system. This places the super charger in the same position as the CRS GM 3800 conversion...a really easy set up which would work through a blow thru TBI system from an EA Falcon. There has been some discussion that these little bloweres are too small. They are right, but one little SC12 or 14 can do up to 225 hp easliy, and 250 to 280 hp with a some work on the pulley system. They are not good for GRA LP Gas carbs...these run sensitive converters which get up set by the rather savage pulses from the two lobe blower.

The Wade blower is a little more difficult. The conversions I've seen are all in engines that have heaps of space for the blower to sit through the bonnet, or directly to the left of the engine bay. In a Falcon cross flow, there is no room for a Wade blower, but the Sprintech, SC12/14, B&M and Autorotor and Eatons, not a problem. The issue is the supercharge out let holes for the air to travel are not in the centre the base of the super charger. Rootes had the outlet mounted forward for the TS Commer truck applications. Simply, a 3/71 or 4/71 is possibly easier to mount, while the cheap as Wade is a real mongrel. That's why it is cheap!

On the non-cross flow in a Cortina, there are two options. There is lots of space to the left if you shift the battery to the right, where it was in the TE/TF, and you mount it like in the TR6 Supercharged conversion I listed in "I'm Gonna Blow My Budget". Thats the best option.

The other is to tilt the engine to the right hand side by 21 degrees, and lower the Wade blower mount so the input shaft runs right above the distributor. A big operation, but when you consider the all up costs, pretty easy.

I've been working on the fabrication diagrams for this, and the cross flow. Once you've seen how street machiners have historically done supercharger swaps, you'll see it quite easy to package.

 

[addo]

This is pretty clear-cut, if you ask me. Turbo.

 

[xctasy]

 

[SuperMag]

Just realised there is only one side with enough room for a supercharger and it has a dizzy towards the front and ....

There's always room for NAWSS...

 

[xctasy]

Please brother SuperMag, WTF is NAWSS... some kinda gun gear for a non turbo to assult ricers with.

I'd rather open my mouth and let people think I'm a fool, than shut my mouth and let everyone know I'm dull....

 

[StrangeRanger]

The "Fast and Spurious" mispronunciation of NOS. Giggle gas by any other name

 

[Anonymous]

lol "fast and the foolish"