YF problems, continued...

Well,

Yes the turbo changes the vacuum properties of the engine absolutely, but not relatively.

Does that make sense? :)

And when not under load, there is no boost, so it is effectively NA. So I don't think that would be a concern.

My only prior experience w/ metering rods is w/ Qjets on V8's as well... but it's basically the same deal.
 
"My experience with the metering rods is on the 4 bbls, so maybe the 1 bbl's are set up differently. "

Well I found my old '73 Ford Shop manual and the YF carb is a bit different and appears to have a mechanical linkage off of the accelerator pump that lifts the metering rods. (Had I read Joe's post again, I would have seen he had already stated the same thing.) The RBS has the vacuum actuated metering rods. From the reading I did tonight some carbs had 3 steps on the rods to help it transition a little better.

As far as the change in vacuum is concerned I was thinking that if it had vacuum actuated metering rods maybe the forced induction would act on the top side of the vacuum piston and the cross sectional area of the rod itself to keep the metering rod down in the orifice with less engine vacuum.

The accelerator pump usually has two check valves. Just like any positive displacement pump, it will have one on the suction side and one on the discharge side. The ball on the discharge side prevents air from being pulled back through the nozzle when the pump returns to normal position and is drawing in fuel.

The air bleed does several things. It is a source of air in the fuel circuit that emulsifies the mixture before it exits the passage. It also bleeds off some of the vacuum signal to the fuel bowl. A smaller air bleed will increase the fuel metering signal and a larger orifice will decrease the signal. The air bleed is calibrated to provide the proper air fuel ratio at idle. And lastly, it may act as a anti-perculation vent. Without the air bleed, when the engine gets hot upon shut down, fuel would be forced into the carbs venturi as the fuel in the passages is warmed up.
Doug
 
Supercharged made a comment that got me to thinking.
or get an acc. cam with more lift at wide open

I am not sure if this is what he meant, but if you could modify or bend the linkage around the acelerator pump/metering rod, maybe you could get it to lift out sooner and or higher.

Another possibility would be to cut and shorten the metering rod a bit, but I don't think you would want it to pull completely out of the jet because it may hang up rather than re-enter the jet.
Doug
 
Ahh, so I was right about the metering rods.

And I do have the other check ball in my acc pump circuit... good point about the other, hopefully I can make it to the yard tomorrow to find one.

As far as cutting the metering rod, Ill take a look at this when I get back to the car and see how much I can take out. I don't think this is going to be the way to go however.

I can problem increase the travel of the ACC pump some, hence increasing the withdrawal of the metering rod (not an effective means of birth control!) but once It gets to the smallest step, pulling it out further isn't going to do much...
 
66 Fastback":skpd8sjn said:
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Another possibility would be to cut and shorten the metering rod a bit, but I don't think you would want it to pull completely out of the jet because it may hang up rather than re-enter the jet.
Doug

Definitely be careful about shortening the metering rod, if it hangs up trying to re-enter it would not be a good thing :evil:

Since the vacuum normally pulls the diaphragm down ward, boost pressure will push it upward, which is what you want.

With pressures properly equalized in the float bowl then the venturi "should" produce the same amount of pressure drop as normal, which would draw the same amount of fuel as normal; in other words not enough. Time to get out the drill.

I'm going to beat the dead horse one more time concerning the float bowl: is it possible that the higher pressure inside the float bowl will prevent the fuel pump from adequately filling the bowl?
Joe
 
Lazy JW":2jgia1ge said:
I'm going to beat the dead horse one more time concerning the float bowl: is it possible that the higher pressure inside the float bowl will prevent the fuel pump from adequately filling the bowl?
Joe

No.
 
Update:

Finally got down to play with the car. I drilled the main jet out to .125 and it made a huge improvement. I gave it a little more advance too and it runs pretty decent, but I got into detonation.

Hooked the WI back up and the detonation reduced, but it's still there a little. I didn't have time to take it any further.
 
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