A few motor mods for Kelly's Falcon

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Now that we're up and running again, :thumbup: here's a couple of pics of some stuff we did to help strengthen the new 250 block.

First up is the Hardbloc. We don't use an engine driven water pump obviously.
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Next you'll see two plugs, one is the oil passage plug since we use Yella Terra rocker arms we don't need this oil passage. On the left side of the pic you'll notice a plug that was installed into the water jacket pass thru. We drilled a .100" hole to still allow some water to pass. This mainly just allows more head gasket sealing surface and more distance from the O-ring to the water jacket.
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And last is my nemisis......the frigin 250 timing chain!
You'll see that we added an additional dowel pin to the cam sprocket. And yes it's intalled! It's just the angle of the sun! We've always had trouble with the timing boucing around and everytime this single dowel pin is loosen up and retards the cam. So we'll see if this quick fix will help! We have some better ideas, but we needed to get this motor running.
If you look close you'll see an 4 degree offset key on the crank. Unfortunately this only netted us 2.5 degrees advance.
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Larger pics can be found at: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/686815
Kelly's car is running good and we made just one little street drive with it for about 15 miles or so. No overheating problems yet with the filled block. Our race was rained out this past weekend, so we'll have to wait until late Feb. to make some passes with it.
Later,
Will
 
Thanks. What does the effect of having less water do to the engine?


wallaka":2t0n1ili said:
Makes it stronger. Reduces cylinder flex and wobble. Promotes better head gasket sealing.
 
michael_cini":3w2hv29t said:
Thanks. What does the effect of having less water do to the engine?


wallaka":3w2hv29t said:
Makes it stronger. Reduces cylinder flex and wobble. Promotes better head gasket sealing.

Possible overheating issues.

I still need to install an oil cooler to help cool the bottom end, but so far with minimal in-town driving it seems to work just fine.
Hardbloc is suppose to be very similar to the engine block as far as thermal conductivity. So in theory it should be able to transfer the heat into the water/coolant.
This is my first attempt at using this stuff so we'll see how it goes!
If I'm still reporting on this same engine in 3-4 years......it works!
Later,
Will
 
Just a stray thought about the cam and its gear - would it be possible to have splines cut into the cam, and also into the gear? Probably have to use a splined spacer between the two, but it'd pretty much lock them together...assuming it's even possible.
 
Quick 8":3dslhf8e said:
What water pump are you using? Do you have any pictures of it installed?
Thanks.
-Jim
Jim,
It's a Stewart inline electric pump. It's mounted right at the bottom radiator hose. I don't think I have a pic of it.
If you do a search for EMP Stewart you'll see what it looks like.

Will
 
Will, How about these, I took these at the Indy Falcon Show in 06..... The pump is kinda hard to see.


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Bill
 
Thanks Bill...nice pics!

Crosley,
Yes the new motor has Manley H-beams that were originally intended for a 4.6L Ford.

Later,
Will
 
Man, Bill!! Dude! You have to post a warning with those pix. A guy needs to pass out lobster bibs to control the drooling. Wow.
 
hey will
What type are you using solid lifters or hyd?
What sorta oil psi are you getting?
are you using a stock oil pump or high vol?
Thanks
Brendan
 
I'll try and answer everyone's questions.

The mods for the Manley 4.6l rods consisted of turning the rod journals down to match that of a 4.6l.....that's it!

No dyno pulls on this motor yet. We race again this weekend so we'll see how it goes. But so far it's looking pretty good!

Our lifters are solid.
Oil pressure at hot idle is around 20psi. As soon as the throttle is tapped it goes to 60psi.
The oil pump is a standard Clevite one. I couldn't find a Melling in enough time. I don't think anybody makes a "high volume" pump for the 250.
Later,
Will
 
A HV pump would probably be counterproductive anyway...they never seem to do much except pump oil into the head faster than it can drain back.
 
wallaka":39j0lm5f said:
A HV pump would probably be counterproductive anyway...they never seem to do much except pump oil into the head faster than it can drain back.

Not the mention the extra wear and tear on the timing chain, dizzy gear, or that stupid, little, cute dowel pin that keeps the entire oiling and timing system together! :shock:

Later,
Will
 
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