All Small Six Help ID my Frankenstein!

[ShaneB]

I recently bought this Falcon on a whim and I am trying to figure out what to do with it. It runs and drives, but there are clearly some timing and shifting issues.

https://flic.kr/p/2rWw6ee

https://flic.kr/p/2rWw76E

Here's what I know. It's pink. It's awesome. It's straight and solid.

Here's what I don't know. What the heck the drivetrain is made of. I know that the owner blew up the original motor beyond repair (windows install) and had a shop put a motor/trans in it. He was told it was a 200/3 speed auto that was installed.

It was originally a 2 speed auto. Now it's what I think is a 5 bolt case fill C4.

The head is a C5DE-6090-A. The block is a C1DE-6015-A. The carb is chinesium Holley flavor but without the SCV port. The distributor appears to be a load o matic.

The car runs and drives, but the advance/spark is of course jacked up. You can drive it, but its pretty apathetic till about 40mph in 2nd gear (sorry, no tach) and then the timing appears to come in all at once and it runs like a champ.

I am trying to figure out if it's a 170 or an early 200. It has three freeze plugs. It does NOT have a T or an N on the flat above the downdraft hole. That stamping reads M-2580. Can anyone offer any advice? or it is just pull the head and measure?

 

[frozenrabbit]

C5 is a '65 head, 170 or 200, C1 block is '61. No 200 until '64. 170 or maybe even a 144. I don't personally know how to ID between a 144 and 170 externally, or by the numbers.

Should look for a down draft tube. With out it, you'll get a lot of oil vapor/smoke coating the engine bay.

I'd replace that bodged together lower radiator hose right away, looks like a piece of flex exhaust pipe.

Your distributor advance isn't hooked to the carb, tube is cut by coil, should hook into where you have a vacuum cap right behind your fuel inlet. OEM Holly 1904 has a threaded port. Your carb base plate is not correct for the head, elongated holes to the intake log, looks 'leaky'. Early year standard base plate has coolant flow thru to the heater core.

Looks like you have a Pertronix in your distributor, looked at your other pics on flickr. Not sure how that works with SCV advance. Others in the forum here have Pertronix experience.

Vacuum for wipers and trans should be plumbed into the log. Can't see what your vacuum line is going to that runs over top of the driver side shock tower brace.

Several issues, but nothing major.

 

[awasson]

Sweet looking ride! That is cool. Yes to everything @frozenrabbit said. I didn’t notice the pertronix wiring until after reading his post. Good eye.

I’m surprised you have any timing after 45 miles per hour. Load O Matic distributors don’t have any mechanical advance built into them. They’re all vacuum signal. I wonder if it’s a spark controlled distributor after all. I’ve read that there is an old, period ford i6 distributor that has normal vacuum advance and mechanical advance. I’m not familiar with it other than reading someone’s post here that has one. I’d check to see what numbers you can find on it to see which one it is.

Cool car!