Holley/Weber 32/36 Jetting Tips

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Here's the most recent settings for my 32/36 DGV:

Main Primary: 145
Main Secondary: 150
Air Jet Primary: 185
Air Jet Secondary: 170
Idle Primary: 70
Idle Secondary: 75

I had an O2 bung welded into the pipe just past where it meets the manifold and used a friends wideband O2 sensor to take readings on a few test drives. It runs stoich and my only complaint is a really lean spike when I punch the throttle. The engine will stumble but it goes away pretty quick. I bought a larger accelerator pump jet that squirts down both venturis but I haven't installed it yet.

I'm rebuilding a new cylinder head to install in a few months. I'll take new readings and will post if I change anything.

I would be interested to see what others are using and if anyone else has the flat spot when accelerating quickly.
 
I am ordering the jets for my carb, but in the mean time My carb wants to die at a left turn. I have two 32/36 and each has a different float and the other one I did use in the past didnt have this problem. I am sure its the float level. Does anyone know the correct float level. Also since I have two different types of floats, is the float levels on ether float the same or different.
 
MiniCJJ64":falxigp7 said:
I am ordering the jets for my carb, but in the mean time My carb wants to die at a left turn. I have two 32/36 and each has a different float and the other one I did use in the past didnt have this problem. I am sure its the float level. Does anyone know the correct float level. Also since I have two different types of floats, is the float levels on ether float the same or different.
I've got a brass float, had the same left-turn stumble. the only way I could get rid of it was to keep lowering the float level, I think it ended up being something like 5 mm lower than spec'ed. But it runs fine otherwise, and will only stumble if I really really yank it to the left.

I forget what my jetting is...I kinda lost my enthusiasm for jet swapping, I really need a decent wideband O2 gauge that doesn't cost a bundle of money.
 
How is your carb oriented? I've heard they're supposed be installed with the fuel bowl facing the front and some say if it's facing the side it causes stumbling during a turn.

I've got mine facing forward and never notice that problem.
 
Mine is sideways, bowl towards the valve cover side. Only way to use the stock throttle linkage bits.
 
I forgot to ask where do you do the measurments at for the plastic and brass. I don't want to get the wrong measurment.
 
Is it correct that an air corrector jet with a higher number will give you a leaner mix and a lower number a richer? thanks..... david soCal
 
david SoCal":1gqru57l said:
Is it correct that an air corrector jet with a higher number will give you a leaner mix and a lower number a richer? thanks..... david soCal
Yup, bigger air jets = more air = leaner, and bigger fuel jets = more fuel = richer. Increase them both and you get more overall flow. But I forget the rate of increase to keep the same a/f ratio.
 
Ok I finally have the time to update. I checked my float level and closed it was 35mm and my float is made of brass. So I changed it to 41mm, like told. What a difference, no more problems going left. Now for the jets I order all the jets and got some wrong so I sent them back, that took forever. Anyways this is my set up. I THINK!
Main primary: 160
Main secondary: 165
Air jet primary: 185
Air jet secondary: 175
Idle primary: 70
Idle secondary: 75
Accelerator Pump jet: double pump 60

I know for sure I can get it to run better. The Idle can be richer because the mixer screw is out 3-4 turns out. Also the car has accelerated better in the past, so I have to see if the jets are to lean or rich and I have to check to see if the accelerator pump jet is to rich.
I just saw that the air jets might need to be switched around, what do you guys think.
 
Take a small hose to use as a stethoscope and check around the adapter for vacuum leaks too. As I described in a post above, I had several leaks around the mounting bolts because of the generic gasket provided. It caused my mixture screw to be about 4 turns out until I found a genuine Weber gasket that sealed it up.
 
Just out of curiosity, has anyone changed the jet pump? I noticed a couple people said something like 60 ... mine (if I'm looking at the right thing) is 25 - probably not good.

Is this the jet that is inside the fuel bowl, at the very bottom? It is right above the accelerator pump. Thanks
 
I think the pump jet is the part with two "arms" that stick out, one over each venturi.

I bought one that has an opening in both the primary and secondary extension. I haven't installed it yet. I have a lean spot whenever I make a sudden acceleration and thought this might help. I'll try to put it in and find out the size for sure. I think it's a .60
 
What hangs over the throttle bores is actually where the fuel comes out. What makes it come out is the pump. You will notice a small diaphragm on the side of the carb that has a lever that pushes on it when the throttle is opened. This is the pump. Most have optional pivot points for the lever that pushes on the diaphragm. I can't remember which one increase the amount of fuel. You should try changing the pivot points and see if they help.
 
Has anyone tried to apply these jet sizes to weber 34 ich or ict in a 3x1 set up ?
 
Here are my observations and comments on jetting my Stovebolt Holley 5200 carb with my new JAW wideband O2 sensor.

First off, let me say that just about everybody who tells you that all you have to do with a Weber 2-bbl to tune one is adjust the idle mixture and speed screws is treating you like a dummy. I'm VERY frustrated with the LACK of good info on jetting these great carbs, it makes no sense to me why the main sources of them don't seem to want anybody to actually open one up and do anything with them. It's like they just assume that everybody who has a Weber is too stupid to do more than turn a screw, grrrr..... :evil:
/soapbox off

So: from you guys and the Pat Braden Weber book, the Weber circuits go something like this:
Idle Jet - controls the % of air/fuel going to the Idle Mix Screw and also the Progression Slot, and also affects the AFR's at cruise / low rpm.
Idle mixture screw - controls volume of mixed air/fuel being added to the air going past the throttle blades at idle (it DOES have an effect on the AFR at idle, not just the volume of AF coming from the Idle Jet.)
Progression Slot (Circuit) - aka "Off-Idle" - not adjustable, controls the transition from the idle circuit to the Main Jet.
Main Jet - controls the amount of fuel going to the venturi, has main effect on AFR at low/speed cruise and above (idle jet effect lessens with rpm/airflow).
Air Corrector Jet - controls amount of air mixing with fuel going to venturi, has main effect at high rpm/airflow.
Secondary Side - comes into play towards wot, most often the Idle and Progression circuits have little/no effect since the throttle on that side tends to open up so fast and go right past them into the Mains.

OK, let me say that I've decided that if you're serious about carb tuning, you NEED a wideband Oxygen setup. I'm pretty good with carbs (if I do say so myself), but with a wideband you can see a LOT finer detail of what's going on than you can with a vacuum gauge, tach, and a good sense of hearing / touch. I had no idea how much a difference in Air-Fuel Ratios (AFR) that 1/16th of a turn on the idle screw can make - like from 13:1 to 14:1. Plus, you can easily and clearly see things if they're not set up just right - like slooowly going from low rpm / low load to high rpm / low load (in 2nd gear, say) you can see when the progression slots come into play and then when the Main Jets come online and then when the Air Corrector Jets come into play - if they're rich/lean, you'll see it happen every time.

Anyways, I swapped the HW5200 back on. Here are the jets it had in it:
Primary side:
Idle = 80, with mix screw 2 turns out
Main Jet = 160
Air Corrector Jet = 180
Secondary side:
Idle = 70
Main Jet = 160
Air Corrector Jet = 180

This jetting was too rich all around. Here are the AFR's:
* Idle was rich, but the mix screw (and wideband) makes a tremendous difference. Adjusted it to 14.0 for best vacuum and AFR.
* Progression (Off- Idle) was 13.0-13.5
* Low-speed cruise (40-50mph) was 12.0-12.5
* High-speed cruise (65-75mph) was 12.5-13.5
* WOT was 12.5
Note that with these jets, It drove just fine and I was getting 20 mpg putting around town and some highway, and with my Autolite 1100 on, it was much leaner (16.5 at cruise), perfectly happy, and getting 20mpg around town.

Tonight I swapped some jets around, did some driving, and here's where it is now:
Primary side:
Idle = 60, with mix screw 3 turns out (like I care anymore!)
Main Jet = 142 (it originally came with this jet in it)
Air Corrector Jet = 180
Secondary side: (didn't change anything (yet) and don't think I'll have to.)

This jetting is much better. Here are the AFR's:
* Idle = 14.5 for best vacuum and AFR.
* Progression (Off-Idle) = 14.0-15.0
* Low-speed cruise (40-50mph) = 15.5-16.0
* High-speed cruise (65-75mph) = 16.5 +/- .5
* WOT = 13-13.5

It drives well, no stumbles or anything. The "Butt-dyno" says that it's a tiny bit peppier with better throttle response, but it's not as dramatic as I'd think. Should see a jump in mileage at this rate.

Call me a happy camper! :D 8)
 
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