Ok, I can't afford it yet, but is it possible

[XFlow_Fairlane]

since you are looking to swap a later trans in a f'lane.....

I made a new trans hanger for mine. if you look under the car you will see that the trans is hung off the torque boxes on two arms. I made new arms out of some rect tubing I had around and a new crossmember (it is flat) you prob could just lengthen the stock ones (or have a welder do that) and maybe just redrill the stock crossmember. you can't just use the existing stuff and it hits the T5 tailshaft housing. it seems like alot of work but it really isn't that bad. if you are interested I could mod my old hanger system for you for a small fee

 

[blueroo]

Ok, a few more questions.
First off, should I look for a 4 cyl, v6, or v8 t5 and if it's the v-8 should I go for the slighlty later (89-93?) with increased torque capacity?
Also, to clear everything else up, is there a book on t5 conversions so I can stop bothering you guys about this?

 

[WhitePony]

LOL I'm sure everybody feels that it's no bother at all. There is a good write on the FordMuscle site, but it's a swap into a Mustang with a bent 8, so it's not exactly the same. Here's the link: T5 Swap EDIT: Ooops I just saw that Linc already posted that

Whether you want an 8cyl or a 4cyl has alot to do both with your rearend gearing, and the amount of low end HP that your engine puts out. With a bone stock engine and a really high geared rearend , you would probably want a 4cyl T5. Otherwise you will not have much power in first gear. On the other hand, If you have a modified engine that's putting out some good HP, or have a lower geared rearend, you may do better with an 8cyl T5 or you will run past 1st gear too quickly.

The 8cyls are definately more expensive, are geared higher and will handle more torque (which is usually not a factor with our sixes). The 4cyl T5's are geared lower to match the lower power of the 4cyl engines. It really comes down to gearing and price, as any T5 will handle the torque of 99% of our sixes.

Kris

 

[MustangSix]

You can offset the shifter the same way they do in a Camaro with a T-5. Rotate the transmission.

Just turn the adapter plate 10-15 degrees to the left and drill/tap new mounting holes. Then bend a shifter to come back up thru the floor. Weld up an adapter that puts the mount at the same angle.

 

[Anonymous]

....as any T5 will handle the torque of 99% of our sixes.

I would like to think I am in the last 1% that might be able to hurt one...

 

[StrangeRanger]

Or we could just think of you as one of those not rare enough individuals who could break a crow bar in a sand box.

 

[XFlow_Fairlane]

well I am not sur eon current prices (I collected parts for two years on it)

but you will need a trans
clutch disc (most likely)
yoke (try to get it form teh donor car)
u-joints (same as stock but a good time to replace them)
throwout and pilot (good time to replace them too (will most likely need a new pilot))
adaptor plate
shifter

I will try to climb out later this week and get some pics of the dash area fomr teh back seat so you can see where it lines up at (this is with my bent shifter)

 

[Anonymous]

Or we could just think of you as one of those not rare enough individuals who could break a crow bar in a sand box.

Hahaha! I was thinking of "boosting" one to death

(2tonfalcon thinks I have potential for 11's in my car - that would be really tough to get to)

 

[blueroo]

Hey,
I might actually be able to afford it. I have a line on a tranny that should work pretty nicely. I just don't know if it's worth it. This is what the tranny is...

It's from a 1989 Ranger XLT 2wd, aka the one I've been driving for about 2 and a half years. It's bolted up to the n/a 2.3 four banger.

First off, it's the factory equipped Mitsu tranny. It's basically a mutt truck from the factory. Ford truck, Mazda engine, Mitsu tranny. So what I need to know is the Mitsu a t5?
Second, the truck has over 170,500 miles on it. Still runs strong though. Spin in first, chirp in second and if you do it right chirp in 3rd. It just had a new clutch put in and it also has a Hurst Mastershift installed.

What do you guys think? Will it work and is it worth it?

 

[WhitePony]

Nope, NOT a T5. Borg Warner made the T5. I've never heard of anybody making that trannie work in a classic Ford, but maybe someone else has.

 

[Anonymous]

What year? May actually be a Mazda trans, not mitsu.

At any rate, avoid like the plague, 4 cyl ranger trans are made of glass and toothpicks, that's why I swapped a 5.0 instead of a turbo 4.

Too hard to mate tiny 4 cyl bell to 6 cyl block, too.

 

[80broncoman]

You can offset the shifter the same way they do in a Camaro with a T-5. Rotate the transmission.

Just turn the adapter plate 10-15 degrees to the left and drill/tap new mounting holes. Then bend a shifter to come back up thru the floor. Weld up an adapter that puts the mount at the same angle.

Wouldn't it be a little simpler to use a 2 inch offset shifter handle and a little wider shift boot?

 

[wsa111]

The T-5 is a cheap trans for a swap into an early mustang.

As far as shifting ability, I owned a 89 mustang with the T-5 trans & that was the worst shifting trans I have owned. My borg warner t-10 or a muncie trans shifted like a hot knife through butter, the T-5 was like a broomstick in a bucket of bolts.

Does the tremac trans shift better than the T-5????

I am comparing full throttle shifts without letting off the throttle, the T-5 shifted fine during granny shifts but hung up on the 2-3 shift when using full throttle shifts.

I drag raced for many years & the t-5 was one of the worst trans I have shifted.

For normal street driving it is ok, but when you push it to the extreme it sucks. William

 

[xafalcongs]

It's from a 1989 Ranger XLT 2wd, aka the one I've been driving for about 2 and a half years. It's bolted up to the n/a 2.3 four banger.

First off, it's the factory equipped Mitsu tranny. It's basically a mutt truck from the factory. Ford truck, Mazda engine, Mitsu tranny. So what I need to know is the Mitsu a t5?

Sorry dude, but no Ranger has a Mazda motor but plenty of Mazda B2300, B3000, & B4000 have Ford motors AND they are built in the old New Jersey Ranger plant. As for the tranny, it's a POS. Most likely the Mazda M5OD which tends to leak lube from the top of the case.

 

[WhitePony]

The T-5 is a cheap trans for a swap into an early mustang.

As far as shifting ability, I owned a 89 mustang with the T-5 trans & that was the worst shifting trans I have owned. My borg warner t-10 or a muncie trans shifted like a hot knife through butter, the T-5 was like a broomstick in a bucket of bolts.

Does the tremac trans shift better than the T-5????

I am comparing full throttle shifts without letting off the throttle, the T-5 shifted fine during granny shifts but hung up on the 2-3 shift when using full throttle shifts.

I drag raced for many years & the t-5 was one of the worst trans I have shifted.

For normal street driving it is ok, but when you push it to the extreme it sucks. William

William, alot of that has to do with the shifter from what I have read. Instead of getting a stock shifter for my installation I've picked up a shifter that's basically a clone of a Steeda Tri-Ax shifter. It's got a CNC machined billet aluminum body and adjustable positive shift stops. It also has offset pre-load springs designed to fix the known problem in the T5's of finding 3rd gear. Supposedly it helps tremendously in the 2nd - 3rd gear shifts. I dunno, I'll find out when I get everything together.

 

[StrangeRanger]

T5 shift forks are fragile. One power shift without having an aftermarket shifter with positive stops and it'll never shift right again.

 

[Anonymous]

the T-5 trans & that was the worst shifting trans I have owned.

Does the tremac trans shift better than the T-5????

With the T-5, it is all in the shifter. Aftermarket shifter is a necessity.

Tremec is a LOT heavier trans, shifts nicely (click-click) when driving normal, but shifter forces go up as revs do. It takes a strong arm to race one.

T5 shift forks are fragile. One power shift without having an aftermarket shifter with positive stops and it'll never shift right again.

A lot of inliners don't abuse their transmissions, and the stock shifter would be fine for them, but aftermarket shifters are so affordable it would pay to get one.

 

[blueroo]

I FOUND A T5!!!!!! It was at Carlisle but I didn't get it. Something worried me about it being $200 and out of a Mustang. It didn't seem right. Around $500 is what I should expect, correct?

 

[WhitePony]

From what I've seen, T5's range from maybe $200 for a used 4cyl to maybe $450 for a good used 8cyl. Rebuilts start around $500 and go up from there. Sometimes folks will run onto a great deal, but I think that's pretty much what you will see.

 

[Anonymous]

They are pretty easy to find good ones for $200-$300