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i know that in 79 the 200 had a fourspeed option. can anyone tell me if there was ever a factory five speed/I6 option in the fox bodies (mustang or otherwise)?
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am i to understand that the 250 block is pretty much a bolt in swap? if it is then which pressure plate/disk/flywheel to use? if its that much simpler ill just simply swap engines too
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No rear sump 250 I6 oilpans for the American inlines.
The I6 was dropped from Foxes after 1982.
IIRC T5 appeared in 1983 in the Fox.
No rear sump 250 I6 oilpans for the American inlines.
The I6 was dropped from Foxes after 1982.
IIRC T5 appeared in 1983 in the Fox.
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doesnt the 250 use the smallblock bolt pattern? the sump shouldntbe a problemas mine has a rear sump anyway
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btw --no, neither the 200 or the 250 was a production engine for the f100. depending on year it may be a 223, 240 or 300 and seems like there was one more but at any rate they were all "big block" sixes where the 144/170/200/250 are all considered "small block" sixes. if some had a small six their effie it was a strange engine swap, but not factory.
The Aussie 250 I6 does not use the same oilpan as the US 250. The Aussie block is wider.
The 250 I6 IIRC is the same bolt pattern as the Ford SB V8.
What the guy did who dropped a 250 I6 in a Fox was weld up a 200 I6 sump onto a 250 oilpan to make a rear sump 250 pan. He also had to modify the oil pan pickup.
If you can get a Argie 225 I6 you get 25 extra cubes and IIRC it uses the 200 oilpan and pickup.
Now add Mikes CI aluminum head and a custom ground cam for the had, header, and 4bbl intake and you should be able to hit 1hp per cubic inch without too much problem.
The 250 I6 IIRC is the same bolt pattern as the Ford SB V8.
What the guy did who dropped a 250 I6 in a Fox was weld up a 200 I6 sump onto a 250 oilpan to make a rear sump 250 pan. He also had to modify the oil pan pickup.
If you can get a Argie 225 I6 you get 25 extra cubes and IIRC it uses the 200 oilpan and pickup.
Now add Mikes CI aluminum head and a custom ground cam for the had, header, and 4bbl intake and you should be able to hit 1hp per cubic inch without too much problem.
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lol i think weve gotten off track somehow---simply for servicability reasons ill be keeping an american block either way---whether its the 250 or the 200. so now if the american 250 block has a smallblock pattern it should be no problem, right?
I saw a '66 truck with a 200 I6/ Mustang 3spd, it wasn't factory, and it was easily spotted. these couldn't be factory, they would never mount the motor, like the guy had it in this particular '66 F100 shortbed/ stepside. welded ( onto frame ) tubular frame pedastals were probably 6-8" long going to the engine mounts, just looked akward. I almost bought the truck for $600, but the cab and front sheetmetal was shot, cab was repairable, bed was EC, as was the frame, needed a daily driver, it wasn't it.dualcarbwagon":3t4fgm95 said:
I'm the one who has the 250 motor in my 81 Stang.
If you're going to put a 250 into your Futura wagon it's gonna take some work.
The others that have replied are right - there is no rear sump oil pan for a 250 motor. I cut the sump area off a 200 pan & mig welded it to a top section of a 250 pan.
Here's a picture of the dipstick area:
As you can see by the oil leak - I never did get the gasket to seal completely, next time I'll use a better sealer or double up on the gasket.
Here's the car:
Motor in the car:
So, you see it can be done, but alot of work.
John
If you're going to put a 250 into your Futura wagon it's gonna take some work.
The others that have replied are right - there is no rear sump oil pan for a 250 motor. I cut the sump area off a 200 pan & mig welded it to a top section of a 250 pan.
Here's a picture of the dipstick area:
As you can see by the oil leak - I never did get the gasket to seal completely, next time I'll use a better sealer or double up on the gasket.
Here's the car:
Motor in the car:
So, you see it can be done, but alot of work.
John
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nice ride brutha! is that the original paint? i dont mind doin the rear sump conversion if its true the 250 has the small block bell pattern (which no one has answered yet) that fits the t5. id rather swap sumps than mix and match clutch parts and then have to try and remember later what i put in.i wonder if a tubular k member would give at least some releif to the sump problem. wacha think? does the t5 bolt straight up?
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Yes a V8 T5 and V8 bellhousing will bolt up to the 250 I6.
Not sure what to do for flywheel.
Might see if a 300 I6 flywheel will work, both are neutral balanced IIRC.
Yes a V8 T5 and V8 bellhousing will bolt up to the 250 I6.
http://fordsix.com/tech/engine/200_swap.php
Not sure what to do for flywheel.
Might see if a 300 I6 flywheel will work, both are neutral balanced IIRC.
your best bet is the later 200 fox body block (partial SBF pattern on it) and drill the needed holes to go SBF and go that route.
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yea man im down fer that since i suffer from crs (cant remember squat) lol it would be my luck a year down the line something would break/wear out and come time to replace it the crs kicks in and then id be doin all this again. so looks like time to start puttin back for a 250 block. may take a bit as im laid up right now and on the mend from a work related accident, but at least now i have a direction to go to. btw if any of you have any speed type stuff for the 200 or 250 that youre just gonna throw out, holler at me---ill be glad to take it off your hands. one mans junk is a another mans jewel right?
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so btw jtstang, how did you handle motormounts and and after the "sump swap" were you able to clear the k member or did you have to modify it? oh and most important which pickup tube did you use or did you have to modify that too? i may not have quite gotten it because i think one or two of your pics didnt come through
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REALLY? i wasnt aware of that as ive only had experience with american engines. a day that i learn something is never a total waste. id love to see any photos ---just out of curiosity as ive always had a fascination for places where they drive on the wrong side of the road (jokin). ive always pounced on what little bit i could find of aussie utes(i.e datsun1200s) and of course the bakkies of south africa. and besides id love to see what an aussie effie looks like. lol aussie effie---try that one ten times fast.Similar threads
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