Smog/AIR pump...

[DarkRose]

Looking for some good pro/con and general info here.
About to replace a radiator on my 79 Fairmont Futura Coupe with a 200 I6. It has a smog pump at the moment. What benefits/negatives would I get from removing it, aside from a cleaner engine bay.

Looking at it, if I decide to remove/disconnect it, it appears to drive off the crank pulley with it's own pair of thin v-belts, could I just remove these and let it not turn, or does that lead to other problems?
If I decided to completely remove it, how difficult is it? I'd rather plug everything instead of crimping/brazing. Cleaner look.

My state has no emissions testing, and this is in no way a daily driver, more of a weekend cruiser and maybe park it at a show here and there.

Don't really know much at all about inlines, so learning as I go...

:help:

 

[bubba22349]

Generally it dose not matter if you have a V8 or six these mods work the same. There would be little other benefit in removing it you can disconnect the belt and see how it runs. When you go down this road you will need to remove all the emissions (smog parts) to turn it into essentially what was a 1968 to 71 engine. Then you will need to tune properly ignition and carb or replace with early version or a new one. When you get done there may be a small gain in horsepower and of coarse it will look cleaner and be easier to work on.

 

[Anlushac11]

IMHO its 25-30 lbs dead weight on the front.

It is not going to give a big performance gain to remove it, I just wanted the weight gone.

 

[DarkRose]

IMHO its 25-30 lbs dead weight on the front.

It is not going to give a big performance gain to remove it, I just wanted the weight gone.

Right on, between that and a new aluminum radiator should shave a little off the front.
Just wanted to make sure taking those belts off alone wouldn't mess anything up.

What other adjustments need made if I remove it? Ignition timing possibly and what else? It's got the stock 1-bbl carb on it...

How much hose and vaccum lines is there involved to completely remove it all and clean the engine bay up?

 

[Anlushac11]

When your car ignites and burns the air fuel mixture there is a small percentage of the fuel that does not get burned.

The Air pump injects air into the exhaust to provide air to ignite the remaining fuel. The exhaust temperature is hot enough coming out of the head to provide heat to ignite the fuel and now air.

I am building a car for Auto-X so handling and balance is important and I need to remove weight off the nose so I can add weight to rear to balance car. Besides my car will be running on E85.

Since your state does not have vehicle inspections you can get by without it but if the Feds have their way there is a talk of the Feds requiring all 50 state vehicle inspection. If you take it off the air pump will probably lock up within a month or two sitting around. I would still keep the bracket in a easy to find place just in case.

 

[DarkRose]

Yeah, I'm in Indiana as well, we're lucky like that, for now.

Guess I'll take a real good look at all the smog pump stuff when I'm over there to check on it next...

 

[stu in wichita]

One other consideration before scrapping it or just letting it seize up is the possible value of the smog pump package. It might be worth a lot to someone who is doing a full restoration. I could be wrong since I'm not familiar with the specifics on these Ford components, but they can be really hard to come by and expensive for some cars.

My "other" car is a '68 AMX :USA: A previous owner removed all of that "worthless stuff." I've seen the smog pump and tubes sell for outrageous prices, $1000-$3000. Yes, that's thousands! Looks like I'll never be able to afford to put those parts back on my car.

It may be a totally different story on the Ford parts, but it might be a good idea to check it out. Even if the parts aren't worth much money, it would be great to help someone who needs it.

-Stu

 

[DarkRose]

Good point. Normally whenever I remove stuff like that from a vehicle, or replace original parts with aftermarket, I keep the originals around packed away somewhere. That way if I ever go to sell it, all of the original parts go with it in case the new owner wants them instead. Usually includes all original parts I have, any Haynes or Chilton manuals, and any shop/part/labor receipts and records, I try to be thorough.
I even have the original bill of sale for this car! That's a first for me!

 

[Anlushac11]

Early Fox body Emissions hardware is already starting to rise in price.

 

[stu in wichita]

... I keep the originals around packed away somewhere. That way if I ever go to sell it, all of the original parts go with it in case the new owner wants them...

I want to buy my next car from you!