To Intercool or not

[rommaster2]

Ok well I am hopefully (assuming all goes as planned) purchasing turbo fairlanes turbo kit which i will be using on my falcon.

Now I do not plan on running a ridiculous setup I would just like at least 140hp at the wheels.


In his post he says he is using a SVO mustang T3 turbo 60/63. Now I was wondering if this turbo would put me at or near that number without an intercooler. I'm not against intercooling, i am just trying to figure out a good place to mount one.

 

[fast64ranchero]

find room and intercool it. I understand it's more work and plumbing but worth it,

 

[StrangeRanger]

Is the setup draw through or blow through?
You cannot use an intercooler with a draw-thru

 

[rommaster2]

blow through of course .

Yeah thats what i figured, my friend says he has one that he will sell me that fit in his 65 mustangs grill.

 

[grocery getter]

some guys have initially went non-intercooled to keep it simple. then when they got it going, added the intercooler. there is a metal supply in west sacramento that you can get 2-3" aluminum tubing at a decent price.

short answer... go intercooled

they come in all sizes and shapes. you'll find one that fits.

I have one from a mitsubishi truck that will tuck nicely between the grill and radiator.

 

[rommaster2]

Hey grocery getter are you still planning the supercharged six for your stang? I ask because i noticed you were selling your aussie head?

If not would you be willing to part with the intercooler?

 

[XFlow_Fairlane]

you could go hot air for now. but this could be a good time to find an IC and fit it to the car and onc eI can part my motor you will be golden.

 

[66Sprint6]

DO IT....end of thread///

LOL
Matt

 

[rommaster2]

Well i have decided i must intercool, i simply must.

Now i just need to evaluate my vehicles front end and decide if i want to hide it or if there is a place to mount that it will look cool and be super functional .

 

[MustangSix]

You don't need a huge intercooler to effectively cool the charge air. Many of the factory IC's are rather small, but very efficient.

The SVO cooler is effective, but is an odd configuration and possibly hard to package. The MX-5 Mazdaspeed cooler is very small but rivals the large ebay coolers for effectiveness. Saab and Volvo also have smallish IC's that might be worth a look.

Point is, you don't need to hang a giant radiator on the nose for your relatively tame application.

 

[757-A_V_8_R]

You don't need a huge intercooler to effectively cool the charge air. Many of the factory IC's are rather small, but very efficient.

The SVO cooler is effective, but is an odd configuration and possibly hard to package. The MX-5 Mazdaspeed cooler is very small but rivals the large ebay coolers for effectiveness. Saab and Volvo also have smallish IC's that might be worth a look.

Point is, you don't need to hang a giant radiator on the nose for your relatively tame application.

I believe you are speaking of the Mazda MX-6 intercooler. My last car was the turbo turbo MX-6 GT. The intercoolers are indeed fairly efficient and were used on the MX-6 GT 88-92. And for all the die hard domestic guys, 89-92 Ford Probe GT uses the same intercooler.

 

[AzCoupe]

Even a big intercooler will fit, if you do a little extra work. And it looks better IMO.

 

[montego]

Is the setup draw through or blow through?
You cannot use an intercooler with a draw-thru

sure you can. the big thing is you have to use couplings that will not collapse under vacuum. something like wire reinforced hydraulic or suction hose should do the trick

 

[Anlushac11]

Is the setup draw through or blow through?
You cannot use an intercooler with a draw-thru

sure you can. the big thing is you have to use couplings that will not collapse under vacuum. something like wire reinforced hydraulic or suction hose should do the trick

Im guessing you would put it between the turbo and the carb?

 

[montego]

y'know, you have a point there. i'm so used to thinking of EFi systems when talking about turbos.
if it's a carbed system, i'd definately go with a blow through, there's too many issues with a draw through carb and an intercooler, like puddles of gas in the intercooler
the car i have now is a drawthrough, but it's FI so that's not a concern.
there is one advantage that i see to a drawthrough system, you don't have to have a blow-off valve
next time i'll think a little more before posting

 

[wallaka]

Is the setup draw through or blow through?
You cannot use an intercooler with a draw-thru

sure you can. the big thing is you have to use couplings that will not collapse under vacuum. something like wire reinforced hydraulic or suction hose should do the trick

Also, if you want to have several feet of finely atomized fuel-air mixture sitting under your hood just waiting for a backfire...guess what happens then?

 

[montego]

like i said, i was thinking of a fuel injection setup.
could you maintain atomization through all that piping anyway?
would anyone want to use a drawthrough setup on a carb engine anyway?
IIRC, the GMs that had them didn't run all that good.
for a carb'd system i'd have to go with a blowthrough

 

[Army of Six]

Is the setup draw through or blow through?
You cannot use an intercooler with a draw-thru

sure you can. the big thing is you have to use couplings that will not collapse under vacuum. something like wire reinforced hydraulic or suction hose should do the trick

its also a good idea if you want very crappy throttle response.