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Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

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Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #1 by ldm314 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:31 pm

Getting the parts together for my turbo 250 build. It is a stock 250 with 150K miles on it. My goal is to make it work with the low quality parts that I'm ordering. First going to be using a T04E 67 trim Ebay turbo. The carb is a ProComp 2 barrel. Spectre carb hat and a downtube from Ebay. I'm going to be creating a J tube with some 2.5" U bends, a 2.5 to 2" adapter, bolted to the stock exhaust manifold. Welding with my Harbor Freight flux core machine.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #2 by powerband » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:06 am

My goal is to make it work with the low quality parts ...

.. as opposed to high price - low quality parts? -

You're off to a great start with the basics for the 250 turbo conversion. I'll be following, 'been working on my (low cost) forced induction 250 Maverick for a few years and I'm at least half done ... 8)

> with abundant turbo/SC parts and info for current cars, there are plenty of 'low quality' (low cost) used/usable forced induction options available for the motivated...

a few basic low boost FI considerations ($) :
; boost referenced fuel supply usually with return from bypass regulator to tank.
; ignition control of spark advance under boost.
; AFR monitoring - especially initial tuning .

... for high boost / performance there are a a whole other set of considerations...

creating a J tube with some 2.5" U bends, a 2.5 to 2" adapter, bolted to the stock exhaust manifold. Welding with my Harbor Freight flux core machine.

may want to add flex ftg's for thermal cycling:
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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #3 by ldm314 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:25 pm

Thanks for the tips. My first step is going to be to switch to the new carb and get it running well. For ignition I have a generic replacement distributor with a vacuum advance. I plan to try and modify it to provide advance at vacuum and pull some out on boost.

Fuel system wise I first am going to try to boost reference the stock fuel pump. If that doesn't work, and electric pump with a blocking boost reference regulator.

I'm hoping to "finish" this project over a few weeks to a few months. I like driving the wagon around town and usually drive it every day. We will see if the weather cooperates here too...

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #4 by powerband » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:59 pm

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Good when possible to get the new carb running well NA before the blower conversion.The Blow Thru mods wont eliminate NA operation, just not optimized.

Referencing the OEM mechanical pump is ambitious, of course vintage Draw-Thru turbo setups don't need boost referenced fuel pressure ...

The DS-II distributors of mid 70's already have very limited mechanical advance and is easily modified.


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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #5 by ldm314 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:00 pm

Just ordered this short flex pipe for the J pipe. I have a turbo kit for a VW engine in pieces in my basement also. Hoping to reuse some parts from it if I can.

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Post #6 by powerband » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:59 pm

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Hoping to reuse some parts from it if I can.

The Blow-Off valve on my 250 is re-purposed Subaru WRX item ...

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #7 by ldm314 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:26 am

This project is still underway. First thing I need to find a throttle cable kit for the Torino. It looks like some lever system currently. In the meantime I've been driving it around as my daily.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #8 by ldm314 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:13 pm

The real first step is done. I added a fuse panel and upgraded the headlights to draw power through it with a relay. The next few circuits connected to this box will include the new distributor and electric fans.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #9 by ldm314 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:37 pm

Today a distributor upgrade

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #10 by pmuller9 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:13 pm

How are you going to retard the timing as boost increases?

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #11 by ldm314 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:42 pm

pmuller9 wrote:How are you going to retard the timing as boost increases?


I am going to use the vacuum advance to do it and run it off manifold vacuum/boost. First adjust the vacuum advance to apply more advance than usual. Then limit the range of the mechanical advance to about half it's normal travel. Idle and cruising will have higher manifold vacuum and higher advance. Once boost comes in, the vacuum advance goes to zero and is limited to the mechanical only.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #12 by 62Cometman » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:52 pm

You could also run a MSD 6BTM box specifically designed for boost applications that electronically retards ignition based on boost pressure, their instructions show you how to wire up with and HEI based distributor. Would highly recommend.
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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #13 by ldm314 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:42 pm

62Cometman wrote:You could also run a MSD 6BTM box specifically designed for boost applications that electronically retards ignition based on boost pressure, their instructions show you how to wire up with and HEI based distributor. Would highly recommend.


Definitely going with that if this doesn't work out. I've been happy with the MSD 6A in my other torino for a long time now. This weekend I am going to try a throttle cable conversion and mount the new carb. Hopefully I can get the C4 kickdown working, otherwise that is going to be disconnected and I'll shift the C4 manually until I can get a cable kit for that.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #14 by ldm314 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:04 pm

Ran into a roadblock today, this carb adapter doesn't seem to work very well. The only way it really mounts is with the carb backwards. Looks like to use this one I will need to heavily modify the linkage and fuel line. I've ordered the adapter from vintage inlines that mounts the carb 90 degrees from this.

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Post #15 by ldm314 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:31 pm

Got a new carb spacer today but still a few snags. Throttle cable was too short to reach with the fuel bowl pointing to the passenger side. Can't flip around because then the fuel bowl hits the valve cover. Ordered today a 1/2" spacer which will let me mount it without hitting the valve cover.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #16 by ldm314 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:18 am

A couple of pictures of the Vintage Inlines adapter. The insert is a very snug fit, you have to get the bolts turned just right. I'll have to loctite the allen bolts or find some with smaller heads when I do the final assembly. I also plan to remove the valve cover, clean and paint it. The gasket is leaking oil and I have a new one ready.

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Post #17 by ldm314 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:42 pm

Another day of parts arriving! I've ditched the idea of using a mechanical pump and have bought a Holley Blue pump and a dead head rising rate regulator. The pump is supposedly able to put out 16PSI. I plan to run only 8-10PSI boost so it should be plenty powerful.

Carb mounting is still being quite tricky. With the adapter, 1/2" spacer, and carb hat on there is more fitment issues. The linkage looks like it is in a good spot as well as the fuel line. Now the hood wont close :(

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Post #18 by powerband » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:54 am

One simple option , cut a hole.

... actually I kept original grabber hood and used the parts' Comet GT 'front clip' for the teardrop. Comet GT has a nonfunctional scoop but wasn't tall enough to clear. :

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Post #19 by ldm314 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:55 am

I'm hoping to not need a scoop, but I have a friend that will give me a torino gt fiberglass scoop if it comes to that. I found another aluminum carb hat that may work. Arrives tomorrow, same brand but shorter

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Post #20 by ldm314 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:38 pm

The new carb cat looks to work. It gives enough clearance for the hood. I've read some reviews saying this low profile one is too small, but that is with people running big engines and high HP. I'm hoping for 150-200HP in the end, 200 might be hard to hit but I should get 150 easy.

For now though I'm going to get the linkage set up, put a cone air filter on and get some tuning time. I have new proper size plug wires and will be taking off the valve cover and cleaning it up. New PCV and valve cover gaskets need installed and it will give me a chance to check the condition of the of the top end. Based on the condition of the car, I'd say the motor already has 140k miles on it.

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Post #21 by bubba22349 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:46 am

ldm314 wrote:Another day of parts arriving! I've ditched the idea of using a mechanical pump and have bought a Holley Blue pump and a dead head rising rate regulator. The pump is supposedly able to put out 16PSI. I plan to run only 8-10PSI boost so it should be plenty powerful.

Carb mounting is still being quite tricky. With the adapter, 1/2" spacer, and carb hat on there is more fitment issues. The linkage looks like it is in a good spot as well as the fuel line. Now the hood wont close :(

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Great job you have the carb oriented the right way on the engine for the best flow! How much room do you have between the fuel bowl and top of valve cover could you use less than the 1/2 inch spacer? If so there were some thick crab base gaskets used on the mid 1970's 2V Ford V8's that could work well and also insulate the carb from heat. Looks like the base of your carb hat could be milled down some to drop it another 1/2 inch, how much to high is the carb setting up? I really like your build plan for the Wagon, good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #22 by ldm314 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:15 pm

bubba22349 wrote:Great job you have the carb oriented the right way on the engine for the best flow! How much room do you have between the fuel bowl and top of valve cover could you use less than the 1/2 inch spacer? If so there were some thick crab base gaskets used on the mid 1970's 2V Ford V8's that could work well and also insulate the carb from heat. Looks like the base of your carb hat could be milled down some to drop it another 1/2 inch, how much to high is the carb setting up? I really like your build plan for the Wagon, good luck :thumbup: :nod:


Take a look at my last post, with a different carb hat the hood just closes. The 1/2" spacer it just right, the carb is nearly touching valve cover. I still need to figure out how to get this throttle cable mounted, looks like I'll need to make up a bracket for it. All my fuel system parts are in too, hopefully I can get it running again soon.

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Post #23 by powerband » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:27 pm

... with a different carb hat the hood just closes. ..., the carb is nearly touching valve cover. I still need to figure out how to get this throttle cable mounted, ...

;; ;new carb hat looks promising once 'plumbing' from turbo is determined. With the smooth transition' 2X1 V.I . adapter and suitable spacers the 2300 series 2bbl fits 'snug'with no space wasted between valve cover and fuel bowl.

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Post #24 by ldm314 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:14 pm

For the turbo intake I am going to have the turbo outlet towards the passenger front, air to air intercooler in the middle, back into the carb hat from the drivers side.

Today I figured out how to mount the throttle cable. I didn't have an over the valve cover setup on this before. The throttle cable went across the back of the motor to the passenger side where the transmission kickdown linkage is. I took the valve cover off, welded a mount to the top of it, sandblasted and painted with some high temp self priming enamel. Valvetrain looks nice and clean thankfully.

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Post #25 by ldm314 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:58 pm

Here is the pump and regulator. I need to get a pressure gauge so I can get it set. On the right side of the red there is a fitting for pressure. For now I just have a brass screen there. It came with a barb fitting as well. The way it's designed it looks like I'll need a check valve and vent for the pressure side to ensure it doesn't see vacuum.

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Post #26 by ldm314 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:27 pm

Now all I need is a return spring

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Post #27 by ldm314 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:40 pm

It's alive again! I only drove it to the mailbox and back but it definitely has some more power to it.

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Post #28 by ldm314 » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:19 am

I've been driving it around gently the last couple days. Amazing difference already. Great results from a $165 ebay carb. So far only a few issues:

  • Air filter wasn't tight enough, fell off and got mashed. The carb hat and filter do touch the hood. Still works though, now very tight.
  • Throttle lever wobbles a bit on the throttle shaft.
  • Accelerator pump needs adjusting. Mashing the gas wide open causes a huge stumble. Not noticeable under normal driving conditions.
  • C4 kickdown not connected.
  • Idle speed needs some tweaking. Because the vacuum advance is running on manifold vacuum there is a large difference between Neutral/Park RPM and in gear. Need to bump up the idle a little more.

Next up is to remove the stock fuel pump and replace it with this electric pump and regulator. Time to start looking for a wideband o2 setup too.

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Post #29 by 62Cometman » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:12 pm

The only true issue in that list, at least in my eyes is the wobble of the throttle shaft, if it has that much play it will likely leak boost as well, i have heard of guys using o rings to try and reseal shafts or use bronze bushings turned very thin to make the difference, i would just be aware of the potential issue that may come but proceed for the time being

if you havent looked into where your oil is coming from you could use this adapter from speedway if you have the room, theyre pretty trick units and give you both the supply and return, the only downside i will say is that the oil is non filtered, but this shouldnt be an issue unless you suddenly get metal in the oil, in which case you have bigger issues :roll:

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Post #30 by powerband » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:49 pm

Throttle lever wobbles a bit on the throttle shaft.

... do you mean the carb housing is loose fitting to the throttle shaft or lever for cable loose on shaft? .

it will likely leak boost as well - 62COMETMAN

.. Important detail for forced induction, with a few remedies . Carb shaft leakage options are addressed in "Hangar 18 ' blow-through carb mods and discussions on forums. New Throttle base plates for the 2300 are widely available in 350 and 500 CFM versions if needed.

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Post #31 by ldm314 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:28 am

The play is not in the throttle shaft itself, but the metal piece that connects the throttle cable to the throttle shaft. I'm going to take it off, add an O-ring, and weld it back into place. After adjusting the cable, adding a spacer to the mount, and re-positioning the springs things are working better. I need to trim the throttle cable and sheath some more to fix the angle and lubricate it well but it is easily driveable. The cone intake filter just hits the hood now, a bit less interference with some hammering.

After 100 miles on the new carb it is definitely running better. I've just started a new position at work and will be driving it around 70 miles a day. Other than a small flat spot off idle it is running very well. Surprisingly spun the tires merging into traffic the other day. Dealing with no kickdown on the c4 has been fine. So much torque that D works most of the time.

Recently I've upgraded the headlights to LED style. Took a bit of grinding to the headlight housing but they are pretty nice so far. Next change will be to remove the mechanical fuel pump and install the holley pump and regulator.

Once I'm happy it is running well and have some more time I'm going to get the turbo in place. Making a J tube, turbo prep the carb, route oil lines, intake piping, then going fast! The worst part is going to be cleaning up my basement to get the chop saw setup.

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Post #32 by ldm314 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:31 am

62Cometman wrote:if you havent looked into where your oil is coming from you could use this adapter from speedway if you have the room, theyre pretty trick units and give you both the supply and return, the only downside i will say is that the oil is non filtered, but this shouldnt be an issue unless you suddenly get metal in the oil, in which case you have bigger issues :roll:

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That adapter looks like it may be the way to go. With that flow I may be able to add an oil cooler circuit as well. My current thought is to tap off the sender and drain into the oil pan but I haven't bought parts other than the generic oil line kit for the turbo.

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Post #33 by powerband » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:22 am

Build overall concept and the many details add up to lots of work , parts and research.
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Next change will be to remove the mechanical fuel pump and install the holley pump and regulator.

Turbo oil supply works tapped off oil sender port and Oil Return can simply be returned to blocked off mechanical fuel pump location if electric is used. If turbo oil returns to other place, FP blockoff makes a good crankcase vent for boosted conditions.

Electric fuel pump should be interlocked with oil pressure safety switch cut-off for worst-case scenario's ...

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250's Oil port with OEM light sensor, Pressure gauge, compressor feed, and safety interlock using Air Tool manifold.

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Post #34 by ldm314 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:54 pm

powerband wrote:Build overall concept and the many details add up to lots of work , parts and research.
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Next change will be to remove the mechanical fuel pump and install the holley pump and regulator.

Turbo oil supply works tapped off oil sender port and Oil Return can simply be returned to blocked off mechanical fuel pump location if electric is used. If turbo oil returns to other place, FP blockoff makes a good crankcase vent for boosted conditions.

Electric fuel pump should be interlocked with oil pressure safety switch cut-off for worst-case scenario's ...

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250's Oil port with OEM light sensor, Pressure gauge, compressor feed, and safety interlock using Air Tool manifold.

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Thanks for the picture, that tool manifold is a great idea!

FP blockoff is how the VW kit I have does it, but I thought the return would be too far away on the other side of the block. I'm not certain on where I'm going to put the turbo yet either. Either behind the shock tower or in front of it towards the alternator are my two choices. I need to really to just hold the turbo in and see how it fits in those spots.

Today I started driving it to work, about 100 miles a day over 3 hours with traffic. The power steering return hose started leaking quite a bit more and needs to be replaced asap. Then my wiper motor went out with the wipers straight up!

There is something still funky with the carb linkage. The return spring on the carb is pretty weak, the spring mount from the throttle kit wasn't quite long enough either. It often idled too high and lightly tapping the accelerator fixed it. I adjusted the cable length a little and also noticed the angle of the cable mount was off so I tweaked it a bit. Hopefully this power steering line holds until I can get a replacement!

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Post #35 by ldm314 » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:22 pm

Drove to work again another 100ish miles down. Maybe closer to 80 per day but the traffic makes it seem longer.

Worked on the throttle cable again today. Still had the same problem as yesterday but a little better. Turns out was too much bend and the the cable was still too tight on the carb. Today I cut about 6" off the end of the throttle cable sheath. Then I had my son hold the accelerator down all the way and I trimmed the cable. I then adjusted it with him holding it down so when your foot is on the floor it just barely WOT at the carb. Finally I added some "chain and cable" lubricant to the cable. Sitting in the driveway the cable moves like butter now, almost no resistance and it goes right back to idle

This morning I ordered a new power steering return line and wrapped the badly leaking line with some silicone rescue tape. When I got home the pump was not whining because it ran low on fluid. It still read full on the little dipstick. Definitely found the leak and will swap out that hose when the new one arrives.

Engine running wise things are still doing great. A steep hill that I could barely do 35 up now gets to over 45 by the top. Once warmed up there are no flat spots off idle and doesn't ping or bog wide open. The factory carb had an issue with hot starts. Go into a store for 20 mins and it would have to crank a bunch before it started. Not a problem with this carb at all so far. I'm not going to need to adjust it again until I tear it apart to boost prep it.

I'm quite surprised by this cheap ebay carb. I didn't open the bowl to check anything and so far have only adjusted the idle speed and mixture screws. When cold it will stall when put into gear. Not too surprising since I have the choke wired open. I've also read that a turbo does help a little with that.

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Re: Torino Wagon Turbo 250 build

Post #36 by ldm314 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:40 pm

So this project is still in the works. Driving well still, getting 20+mpg easily.

I bought another wagon as a parts car. It also is a 250, but has an AOD in it instead of a c4. Comes with a bunch of extra parts too.

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