1965 mustang 200 ci running with ignition off

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I need some help,

My mustang died and I got it restarted and when I turned it off it kept on running. I popped off the coil plug and it still kept on running. I took to negative cable off and it still kept on running, but real slow this time. I had to cover the carb opening and cut off the air flow for it to stop. I am at a stand still. can anyone help. Thanks.
 
If you took the coil plug off and it kept running, then it's dieseling.

However, it really shouldnt be able to do this for more than 3-5 seconds.

How long did it run for ?
 
It ran for about 5 minutes. I did replace the starter seleniod the day before because it was clicking when i tried to start it after it died. it did restart and ran fine untill i turn it off. it was the wildest thing I could not get it to turn off. The engine was making a scraping noise. I hope nothing was damaged in the process. Thanks.
 
Check your solenoid wiring; sounds like the wires got crossed. The scraping sound that you hear, may be the starter engaged because of the faulty solenoid wiring. My guess!
 
OKay, Clearly I am misunderstanding something you are saying.

If you remove the wire between the coil and the distributor (or any wire to the coil, for that matter) it cannot continue to run.

So what is it you did exactly ? If it continues to run after you shut off the key, it could be a bad ignition switch or a short somewhere. Either way - you are getting voltage to the coil when you don't want to.
 
If he took the Coil Wire off and it still ran, it's Dieseling PERIOD.

There is no other way for an engine to run otherwise....

From Wikipedia....

Potential causes

This condition can occur for a multitude of reasons:

Built-up carbon in the ignition chamber can glow red after the engine is off, providing a mechanism for sparking unburnt fuel. Such a thing can happen when the engine runs very rich, depositing unspent fuel and particles on the pistons and valves. Similarly, non-smooth metal regions within the piston chamber can cause this same problem, since they can glow red. It has also been suggested that an improperly rated spark plug can retain heat and cause the same problem.
A carburetor that does not close entirely can contribute to running once the engine is off, since the extra fuel and oxygen mixture can combust easily in the warm piston chamber. Similarly, hot vaporized oil gases from the engine crankcase can provide ample fuel for dieseling.
Incorrect timing.

An engine that runs too hot or too lean may produce an environment conducive to allowing unspent fuel to combust.
An idle speed that is too fast can leave the engine with too much angular momentum upon shutdown, raising the chances that the engine can turnover and combust more fuel and lock itself into a cycle of continuous running.

Potential fixes

Items similar to carburetor cleaners and carbon cleaners have been suggested as partial remedies for attempting to clean the piston chambers and valves of engines that run too rich.

For those engines that have sharp metallic edges, it has been noted that poorly milled heads and blocks can contribute to this problem, so having the rough spots smoothed may help.

For those engines that run too hot or too lean, verify that all mechanisms in place to cool the engine properly function as they should. Replace the thermostat if necessary. Clean the radiator. Verify that all auxiliary fans engage at their proper temperatures, and ensure that the thermostatic sensors on belt driven fans engage as necessary.

In the case that there is too much angular momentum, lower the idle speed if possible.
 
We have an OLD 82 Toyota P/U For a wash truck at my work, it Diesels untill you Stall it out with the clutch !! :lol:
 
I have been around engines that would run on like that but never had the guts to let em keep going to see how long they would run. I just got in the habit of leaving it in gear when I shut off the key then put it into park.

I also wonder if he maybe has a motor that has been worked on and is a little high on compression to start with before the carbon build up, got to be a lot of carbon in there to keep it running like that.
 
Thanks Guys,
When I did get it running it was putting out some black stuff out of the tail pipe. Could the PVC valve be sticking or something? I do have a 2 bbl weber carb on it that I put on a couple of months ago. It has been running fine untill it died. I put a new roter and roter cap, a new starter selenoid and I think I might have to invest in a timing light to get the timing just right. Thanks.
 
Was it really hot when you shut it off?

If it happens again, put your hand over the carb to choke it. That'll kill it so you can look for more potential problems.

I'm kinda impressed that it dieseled for 5 minutes.
 
My '73 bronco does this very same thing, running with the ignition off. Just not much you can do with 35 year old wiring; that is, unless you want to replace all of it.

Turn the ignition off, put it in gear and stall it. That's what I do, but I also have a battery disconnect, like one you would use on a boat (one of the smaller ones). If I didn't, the ignition would stay on and drain the battery. Makes for a good theft deterant, too.

But it doesn't do it all the time and it doesn't bother me. It is like the bronco is saying, "...is that all you are going to run me? I ain't finished yet!"

Another note, it usually only does this when I run it for a short period of time, but say 10 miles or more, it shuts right off.

Kirk
 
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