Adding aluminum head to 250 in a 66 Mustang (engine running video added)

Looking to try a different carb without a choke horn, I suppose I can always take the choke horn off as well lol. Currently have a 2 barrel holley street avenger 350cfm. I really don't need a choke, nice to have but I can go without it. According to napkin math the engine needs about 399 cfm's in 2 barrel cfm's which could probably be achieved by just lopping the choke horn off as I have seen it increases cfm. Math in public:

255 cu.in. x 4500 rpm (I'm not running higher) = 1,147,500
1,147,500 / 3456 = 332.03 cfm
332.03 x .85% efficiency = 282.22 cfm (4 barrel cfm's)
282.22 x 1.414 = 399 cfm (2 barrel cfm's)


I'm looking at these two combined to make a high performance two barrel with vacuum, I think that's how it would work anyway if the throttle body was swapped, not sure I have no experience doing so:



Okay learning more about carbs as I go and if I want vacuum on the 4412BKX carb it does appear to have a full manifold vacuum port at the base available to just add the fitting. No ported (spark) vacuum but the throttle body can add it if I actually want it. Once the throttle is open the "spark" port is full vacuum and no different than the manifold vacuum so not sure I need it all that much since it only has no vacuum during idle and if that's smooth even with the dizzy pulling vacuum I don't care too much for it since I care for vacuum advance when out of idle and the throttle is open. All that being said, I'm leaning toward just removing the choke tower on the current street avenger 350cfm with a saw then smoothing it out with a dremel lol
Your air calculations are correct. Remember that the carb does not just turn off at it's rated capacity. The 2 barrels are rated with more air being sucked thru them until they have 3" of vacuum. The 282cfm calculated above - a 4 barrel carb of 282 cfm will have 1.5" of vacuum @ 4500rpm and a two barrel of 282 cfm will have 3" of vacuum @ 4500rpm. 3" of WOT vacuum is some loss of power, there's a little untapped potential there, but it does not just fall on it's face.
I'm speaking from experience here, being one who prefers smaller carbs for cold start, low end drivability and economy. The 2V carb on my 240 is only 245cfm, that's 174cfm if 4 barrel. With a mild performance cam and intake this truck is noticeably stronger above 3000rpm than my 300
truck with a stock cam and 4 barrel. It will pull strong well up into the 4000's, and does not start showing vacuum until 3500 rpm. It could use a bit more carb at top end, but the loss is not extreme. This same carb was factory equipment on a 289 V8.
A 350cfm 2V will be sufficient IMHO. The Ultra HP carb you posted with no choke tower looks good, and it says it's 500 cfm- that's more than plenty, and is more likely to meter well with a low-top filter.
 
If your spending that much on a carb why not get a 390cfm 4 barrel like the big 6 guys have documented here.

Which 4 barrel is it if you don't mind pointing me to it?

Ah it might be the following and if so I'm getting away from having a choke and choke horn:

 
Which 4 barrel is it if you don't mind pointing me to it?

Ah it might be the following and if so I'm getting away from having a choke and choke horn:

OK, Yes that's it.
 
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Gah, prices have gone stupid! There are some EFI or turbo setups with more potential for less. 😏 I agree there is some over-reach with the CFM estimates. With some realistic port flows, or VE numbers from actual similar applications, we could have much better estimates.

If using other applications as a guideline, we could say Ford used the 4100 4V carb on big-block FE engines, such as the 330hp 390 or the 360hp 428. Those carbs flowed an actual 520-530 CFM at 1.5"Hg. Even using an average of 345hp and 525 CFM, that gives us a hair over 1.5 CFM per HP in successful factory applications. Do you really think you'll get 200hp out of that six? If so, then 200 x 1.52 = 304 CFM.

Or, we dynoed a street 351W with one of those 4100s flowing 528 CFM, and made 441hp, just to show how far you can stretch that rubber band @Frank mentioned. Due to incredible response and torque, the Fairlane it went into with a C4 and little slicks, would pull the front tires hard at the strip. Way more fun than going a little faster at the end.

Yours will never be the fastest car around, but consider what else it might do really well, like 1/8-mile, or 2-gear squirts around town. I'll bet you do more of that than situations where an extra 6hp at 4500 rpm makes your day. I always lean towards smaller than larger on street carbs for better overall fun performance, but that's just a rule-of-thumb. 🤷‍♂️
 
Gah, prices have gone stupid! There are some EFI or turbo setups with more potential for less. 😏 I agree there is some over-reach with the CFM estimates. With some realistic port flows, or VE numbers from actual similar applications, we could have much better estimates.

If using other applications as a guideline, we could say Ford used the 4100 4V carb on big-block FE engines, such as the 330hp 390 or the 360hp 428. Those carbs flowed an actual 520-530 CFM at 1.5"Hg. Even using an average of 345hp and 525 CFM, that gives us a hair over 1.5 CFM per HP in successful factory applications. Do you really think you'll get 200hp out of that six? If so, then 200 x 1.52 = 304 CFM.

Or, we dynoed a street 351W with one of those 4100s flowing 528 CFM, and made 441hp, just to show how far you can stretch that rubber band @Frank mentioned. Due to incredible response and torque, the Fairlane it went into with a C4 and little slicks, would pull the front tires hard at the strip. Way more fun than going a little faster at the end.

Yours will never be the fastest car around, but consider what else it might do really well, like 1/8-mile, or 2-gear squirts around town. I'll bet you do more of that than situations where an extra 6hp at 4500 rpm makes your day. I always lean towards smaller than larger on street carbs for better overall fun performance, but that's just a rule-of-thumb. 🤷‍♂️
I plan to dyno it to find out but in the meantime here's some links to what these bad boys can do:
Same setup except I have a 250cu.in. (approx 255 with bore over) and this is a 200 and it got over 200 hp/tq:


Others, some at over 400 with fi:


My car won't be tracked, just fun for me and I don't want the hassles of fi. Just simple NA at hopefully over 200 hp/tq on this 2380 lb. Car is alot of fun. I've been chirping up the gears with it and it's T-5, just gotta iron out the wrinkles.

I picked up the Holley Ultra XP 2 Barrel 500cfm and a new carb hat that I plan to polish inside along with ducting to the front of the car for ram air and ambient air induction.

Spectre low pro carb hat:

 
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