new head? questions

yodabiri

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hello i was just wondering about the new aluminum head that Azcoupe is working on, and i have several questions that have probably been answered before but i dont have the time to look through all of the posts for the answers!.
My questions are:
How much will it cost(approximately)?
What kind of carburetors will it be able to be adapted to? or vice versa? HAHa
What kinds of modifications will be required to the accelerator linkage?
And just out of curiosity, will there be a turbo kit designed for this head? And how much would it cost if that type of thing is planned?

Thanks in advance and i hope this was noy a waste of anybody's time!

Thanks
 
I'm sure a little investment in time searching past posts would pay a dividend in answers. :wink:

Mike's having fun with the R&D stages at present. Do you know how many hours are in fully patterning up for a head and manifolds? It's a whole lot (probably over 500), and costs like that really impact on finished price.

The intended maker will also charge appreciable amounts for the casting, heat treatment and machining. First production will be sawn up for evaluating flaws in wall thickness, or other problems like slag inclusion or porosity. Then there's bench testing, then dyno time. Finally track work. :twisted:

Only at this stage can a reputable vendor "look you in the eye" and say he's done it the right way. From what I know of Mike, he won't offer anything but the best, proven in this manner. But remember that all the above efforts cost in terms of paid hours worked, and this must be divided by projected sale numbers and added into unit costs.

So - no answers, but a little perspective on where the costs come from!

Regards, Adam.
 
Thanks ADDO. :wink:

The design engineer did a great job on his part, but just to be safe, we sent the port and chamber designs to a porting expert for his opinions. Then, when we were at the PRI show, we ran into Mr Mondello. When we told him what we were up to, his eyes lit up and he asked if he could be of any assistance. So to make a long story short, he too will be taking a peak at the new design and will be running wet and dry flow test on the first prototype when completed. He even went so far as to offer us his personal services when we are ready.

The pattern work began in earnest last week and we hope to have five prototypes ready about mid May. If all the testing goes well and no modifications are required, we should have the first batch of heads somewhere between mid June to mid July.

We also hired an expert in intake designs. His experience includes intakes for Edlebrock, Offy, Magnuson, and others. Right now, he is doing some basic work, but the biggest part won't happen until one of the prototypes are sent to him. But producing the intake patterns and match plates is realatively quick and simply in comparison and shouldn't hold back the first production run.

Still no final cost, but we are sure it will be aceptable. Somewhere between $1000-$1500, but much depends on what happens over the next couple of months (as so well explained by Addo).

Yes, we will be offering numerous intake options. Including a 2V and 4V (Holley), 3x2V (Webber), and an intake suitable for a Magnuson blower. All intakes will have injector bungs, and compatability for turbo boost (except the blower intake of course). We (DOES10) has already designed the turbo header, which fits the US log heads, the OZ cast heads, and the new FSPP aluminum head. But he is still doing some minor refinements to make sure its what we want before sending it off for a production run.

SI Valves has agreed to supply the valves and valve train components, even if custom pieces are required. So we can specify precisely what we want rather than chossing a shelf parts and making them work. Jessel and Harland Sharp have both offered to work with us on a new rocker designs, if needed. Jessel is also going to assist us in suppling the parts needed to run roller cams and Clay Smith Cams will be designing new cam profiles (including the roller cams) suited specifically for the new head and various intake options.

Hope that answers your questions. :wink:
 
WOW !!!! is all i can say really
You have already done an incredible job and i cannot wait till the summer to see what the final product is like. I will be purchasing one when they are available to add to a 250 block wich will be rebuilt to take advantage of the new head.

Kudo's to you Mike and thank you for all your effort - it will definately pay off for all of us!
Have a very good christmas and happy new year


John

Have a good holiday to all
 
Sweet! Glad to hear that, as I have been waiting to see what comes of the new head... am willing to wait for it, as it should be a big boost for potential ford six customers... and it'd be nice to have :D
 
The first version had a problem whereby the patternmakers thought all dimensions were in millimetres. In fact, they was inches. :shock:

Az had to scrap dozens of alloy crossflow heads that were about 1 inch long and ¼" wide. :wink:
 
8) one question i do have mike, is will this head be available bare, or complete only?
 
wow dude dont scrap them i need a keychain and those would be freakin sweet
 
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