strangeranger- what I was thinking was hydraulic pump either crank mounted or I have seen pumps designed to mount like an ac compressor, they come with an ac clutch. the pump would be used to drive a hydraulic motor mounted to the sc. Possibly something like a paxton. My thought was that this would open up the possibilities for mounting. It would cost horsepower too, but I think that whatever method used will.
Electric supercharger, must not be too great a concept, the only ones I've seen come in a box market "Bilge Exhuast Fan" and are market targeted to ricer who don't know anything anyway.
Electric power and free lunches, there was a story about two Texas A&M engr undergrads that designed and built an electric car. Drove across the state of Texas, almost 900 miles for $1.37 worth of electricity. Unbelievablly efficient, EPA loved it, tree huggers wept in joy, California started legislation to mandate it as their only type of vehicle power source; only one small problem, the damn extension cord cost $1.3 million.
Electric power and free lunches, there was a story about two Texas A&M engr undergrads that designed and built an electric car. Drove across the state of Texas, almost 900 miles for $1.37 worth of electricity. Unbelievablly efficient, EPA loved it, tree huggers wept in joy, California started legislation to mandate it as their only type of vehicle power source; only one small problem, the damn extension cord cost $1.3 million.
Thad,
The rest of the country doesn't understand Aggie jokes
The rest of the country doesn't understand Aggie jokes
Thad's comments (first paragraph) reminded me of one of the joys of renovation (remodelling)... http://odorvac.com/index.html
Oh yeah, we got one of those at work. Compressed Natural Gas powered. See, there are perpetual motion free lunches out there.
In the South Pacific, we call them Toilet Jokes. You Americans don't get them because we Aussies and Kiwis end up sounding rude, and outware our welcome. Pllllllfffffffttttt!!!!
Just like Crock Dundee...."its for cleaning yer Ar$e" quip in a Paul Hogan movie.
Back to Electric Turbos!
In the South Pacific, we call them Toilet Jokes. You Americans don't get them because we Aussies and Kiwis end up sounding rude, and outware our welcome. Pllllllfffffffttttt!!!!
Just like Crock Dundee...."its for cleaning yer Ar$e" quip in a Paul Hogan movie.
Back to Electric Turbos!
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Goinbroke2, I don't profess to be an expert on pumps, my experience with them was not sought on my part. By the way I used to support the communications for armor and self propelled artillery M60s, M2s and M109s and M113s to include 4duece mortar, what a dirty and hot job, I watched a crew clean a 155 tube on a hot day in the summer, I must say I didn’t think cleaning an M16 was that much of a pain any more.
I guess the blowers on the diesels were a lot looser, I dealt a lot with the big high 120 to 200psi pressure high volume air compressors, they were fixed placements with huge air cleaners and three phase motors but they use roots type lobed rotors that look almost exactly like the ones mounted on a lot of diesels but the housings were heavier.
I guess the blowers on the diesels were a lot looser, I dealt a lot with the big high 120 to 200psi pressure high volume air compressors, they were fixed placements with huge air cleaners and three phase motors but they use roots type lobed rotors that look almost exactly like the ones mounted on a lot of diesels but the housings were heavier.
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<b>Well a 300 @ 5000 RPM uses 434 CFM at 100% VE. At 6 PSI that's going to be somewhere around 611 CFM, so 10 sec would require around 102 cu.ft. at 6 PSI. Assuming your tank is rated for 120 PSI, you could compress that by a factor of about 6.5 so you'd need a tank a bit larger than 15.7 cu.ft. Once you add in all the losses and inefficiencies, you're probably looking at something bigger than 18 cu.ft which is 134 gallons. I'd guess a 150 gallon tank would work nicely.
Now, if you want to look at using a high pressure air cylinder, you might be able to make it work IF you can find a regulator big enough. </b>
This Idea still apeals to me, alot. Mix the compressed air with a touch of nitrous and call it an air nitro. 10 seconds of pure speed. No turbo required.
I bet I could find and modify a high pressure air tank for the job. Hooking it up right would be different though.
Hmm.. Thinking outloud here, 150lb high pressure tank, with a y-pipe in the line connected to a nitro. If you could find a big enough nitrous plate you might be able to run it through that way.
Now, if you want to look at using a high pressure air cylinder, you might be able to make it work IF you can find a regulator big enough. </b>
This Idea still apeals to me, alot. Mix the compressed air with a touch of nitrous and call it an air nitro. 10 seconds of pure speed. No turbo required.
I bet I could find and modify a high pressure air tank for the job. Hooking it up right would be different though.
Hmm.. Thinking outloud here, 150lb high pressure tank, with a y-pipe in the line connected to a nitro. If you could find a big enough nitrous plate you might be able to run it through that way.
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Here's a "diagram" of what I'm thinking of, this idea is like sounding really neat...
Two things grey:
Second, nitrous releases oxygen as it breaks down. It requires more fuel, not more air. Add nitrous without adding fuel and you get this godawful, piston burning, valve melting lean condition. Adding nitrous and more oxygen only makes that worse.
First, if you pressurize the manifold under the carb, what keeps the pressure from blowing back out the carb? Any compressed air system needs to pressurize the top of the carb, not the bottom, otherwise the carb is just a big hole that vents to the atmosphere.
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Second, nitrous releases oxygen as it breaks down. It requires more fuel, not more air. Add nitrous without adding fuel and you get this godawful, piston burning, valve melting lean condition. Adding nitrous and more oxygen only makes that worse.
First, if you pressurize the manifold under the carb, what keeps the pressure from blowing back out the carb? Any compressed air system needs to pressurize the top of the carb, not the bottom, otherwise the carb is just a big hole that vents to the atmosphere.
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<b>nitrous releases oxygen as it breaks down. It requires more fuel, not more air. Add nitrous without adding fuel and you get this godawful, piston burning, valve melting lean condition. Adding nitrous and more oxygen only makes that worse. </b>
I was thinking of a real lean mixture of nitrous to somewhat bolster the compressed air, I'm not an expert on either nitrous or blown engines. But for some odd reason this thing appeals to me in a very odd way.
<b>First, if you pressurize the manifold under the carb, what keeps the pressure from blowing back out the carb? Any compressed air system needs to pressurize the top of the carb, not the bottom, otherwise the carb is just a big hole that vents to the atmosphere.</b>
Hrmm... You'd almost have to have a pressurized box that could seal the carb via a switch and be able to open up again after the boost. Again, I'm not an expert on blown engines but I'm thinking that you could adapt some type of intake to it. I'm going to sit down after work a bit and try and flesh this out (still reading How to select and install turbo-chargers
by Hugh MacInnes).
It probably isn't going to be possible (without a lot of hassle) or cost effective (turbo's can be found for fairly low prices nowadays, vs. a high pressure tank/compressor... Good Air compressor setups aren't cheap...)
Anyways, thanks for setting a charge happy inline guy straight.
I was thinking of a real lean mixture of nitrous to somewhat bolster the compressed air, I'm not an expert on either nitrous or blown engines. But for some odd reason this thing appeals to me in a very odd way.
<b>First, if you pressurize the manifold under the carb, what keeps the pressure from blowing back out the carb? Any compressed air system needs to pressurize the top of the carb, not the bottom, otherwise the carb is just a big hole that vents to the atmosphere.</b>
Hrmm... You'd almost have to have a pressurized box that could seal the carb via a switch and be able to open up again after the boost. Again, I'm not an expert on blown engines but I'm thinking that you could adapt some type of intake to it. I'm going to sit down after work a bit and try and flesh this out (still reading How to select and install turbo-chargers
by Hugh MacInnes).
It probably isn't going to be possible (without a lot of hassle) or cost effective (turbo's can be found for fairly low prices nowadays, vs. a high pressure tank/compressor... Good Air compressor setups aren't cheap...)
Anyways, thanks for setting a charge happy inline guy straight.
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