All Small Six Back in the Saddle

[cr_bobcat]

~sigh.... Still waiting....

 

[DON]

Man!! Did you order some of those auzzy parts???

 

[cr_bobcat]

I spoke too soon. The Morel lifter set was in my mailbox when I got home from work! I had to run my son to cello lesson but will try to make them fit in the 250 block when I get back home again.

 

[pmuller9]

This is exciting!
The suspense!

 

[cr_bobcat]

Fully seated and linked!!!!

 

[cr_bobcat]

Now I will have to maybe throw a cam in and make sure that they are long enough to make contact to the base circle. I have also only tried one spot. It does take about 3 hands to do, but I did it!

 

[Jmustang_65]

Hey that's a big win for small six fans.
I was just about to ask if you can try the rest of the lifter bores?

 

[pmuller9]

Fully seated and linked!!!!

The lifters are not in the right location.
How will that work in the end cylinders?
Can you get the tie bar between cylinders?

 

[cr_bobcat]

The lifters are not in the right location.
How will that work in the end cylinders?
Can you get the tie bar between cylinders?

I realized my mistake and took some more pics

 

[cr_bobcat]

Need to grind some room for the end lifters

 

[cr_bobcat]

I was also able to link in the other direction so once I grind enough room for the retainer to pass, I think I'll be good

 

[cr_bobcat]

This cast in bolt location will need to be dealt with too

 

[aussie7mains]

You have found out why the Argentines use a pinned type of cam-follower. Even if you can get the tie bar type to work, what about the camshaft? It needs to be hardened steel, complete with the oil pump drive gear. Good luck.

 

[cr_bobcat]

This was "can I get them to fit". Now it's time to contact cam companies. Tighe (spelling?) made one for mike1157 years ago so it can be done. That means a US company should be able to too. Gotta start somewhere...

 

[pmuller9]

This cast in bolt location will need to be dealt with too

Being that the casting is between the lifter pairs, does it interfere with the lifters?

 

[cr_bobcat]

Being that the casting is between the lifter pairs, does it interfere with the lifters?

Not sure until I play some more. TBH, I'm leaning towards just grinding the whole thing out and plugging the hole. I do believe that's the mounting point for the coil and I don't plan to mount there anyway.

 

[drag-200stang]

Need to grind some room for the end lifters

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Be careful about grinding close the that water passage. Use a gasket to see where. The Jeep guys take a little off the retainer button at the outside edge so as not to affect any link retention. if you do be careful there too.

 

[drag-200stang]

You have found out why the Argentines use a pinned type of cam-follower. Even if you can get the tie bar type to work, what about the camshaft? It needs to be hardened steel, complete with the oil pump drive gear. Good luck.

Those guys are not fooling around. I think that they do the pin is because it kills two birds, a lot less weight and two, easier assembly. It may be that the link will not work on a 200 South American block and may not work on a 200 U.S. block ,I know that there is a lot less room on a 200 US block compared to the US 250, time will tell.

 

[cr_bobcat]

Those guys are not fooling around. I think that they do the pin is because it kills two birds, a lot less weight and two, easier assembly. It may be that the link will not work on a 200 South American block and may not work on a 200 U.S. block ,I know that there is a lot less room on a 200 US block compared to the US 250, time will tell.

I've seen that the bushings are $35-50 each before you even buy the lifters. I wasn't on getting crazy with the grinder. Just enough to pass. It isn't going to take much. Good point on the button. I can take a little from each and reduce my risk that way.

 

[aussie7mains]

Those guys are not fooling around. I think that they do the pin is because it kills two birds, a lot less weight and two, easier assembly. It may be that the link will not work on a 200 South American block and may not work on a 200 U.S. block ,I know that there is a lot less room on a 200 US block compared to the US 250, time will tell.

They have a 188/221 block, much like we did, its a higher deck than the 200 to accommodate the longer stroke, 188 is 2.94 and 221 is 3.46, you guys never had these.